Right ok,

Put up a ftp. Ill create a page where we can put information on the
project at www.orbitalfox.com/labs.php . If the project goes well, i can
make a completely separate page for it on my server. What would the
website need?

My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Where are we putting the new mailing
list? I can host mailing lists on my server, but id rather not. Google
would be a good option.

Let me know when the ftp is ready.

Stavros

On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 13:23 +0300, Mikko Silvennoinen wrote:
> There is something wrong with the web-site.
> Some of the stuff can be found elsewhere in the web, but it migth be
> hard to get everything.
> I haven't tried really hard to find out what's the situation of the
> web-site, but I think it migth be
> down because of lack of money or interest.
> I think it would be great if you could put up a new one and a backup
> mailing-list if this one stops
> working. I think irc-channel is not so good, because often there is
> information lost and
> not everybody is getting it.
> I can put up an FTP-server and put all the stuff there.
> When I get it up, you should get it all and save it on a cd.
> To re-create the mailing list/ backup everybody who wants to make sure
> to stay with in the future
> should send their e-mail-address directly to me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
> Stavros , who must let us know to what address ?
> Or who wants can put their e-mail addresses on this list to make sure
> all others get it.
> I can make a link for further info to my web-page
> http://www.bittiainen.com or
> at some point http://www.pwar.net or if those break for some reason to
> http://www.sci.fi/~topweb/
> 
> Mikko Silvennoinen
> 
> Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote: 
> > OK i just tried to get the kernel and the rest but non of the links
> > work :(
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> > Stavros Polymenis
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mikko Silvennoinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
> > <[email protected]>
> > To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
> > <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
> > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:48:50 +0300
> > 
> > Easiest making the SD-card:
> > I used gparted on a linux desktop for partitioning the SD-card and
> > formatting it, qparted works well too,
> > found from System Tools menu.
> > You can use your linux desktop's archiving tool-programs found usually
> > from Accessories menu for
> > unarchiving the Ångström image to the  formatted ext2 partition on the
> > SD-card.
> > Or better first  to hard drive, and then copy to SD.
> >  Try Krusader with root mode found e.g. on  Kanotix  live linux cd for
> > tools.
> > Or more  widely on almost every linux desktop: Konqueror-web-browser,
> > with this trick:
> > Start it and from menu: Settings > Load View Profile > Midnigth
> > Commander.
> > You can make changes to settings and save the view-profile with an other
> > name.
> > e.g. FileCommander, then make a new launcer for it to panel and put to
> > the "command":
> > fmclient openProfile FileCommander
> > 
> > These are more thorough instructions on what needs to be accomplished:
> > (I don't know if all the web-links are up to date, but most was
> > originally found from http://www.altavista.com  )
> > Note: This Readme is a modified Version from
> > http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/magician/README
> > 
> > 0) Select correct Image
> > 
> > First you have do know which device you have. Select the aximx50 (non
> > vga) image for the following devices:
> > 
> >    * Dell Axim x50
> >    * Dell Axim x51
> > 
> > or select the aximx50v (with vga display) image for the following
> > devices:
> > 
> >    * Dell Axim x50v
> >    * Dell Axim x51v
> > 
> > 1) Download
> > 
> > To boot the experimental GPE image from SD card on a aximx50, you'll
> > need the following files:
> > 
> >    * the experimental GPE image itself:
> > 
> >      [aximx50 series]
> > http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50/Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070316-aximx50.rootfs.tar.bz2
> >      [aximx50v series]
> > http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50v/Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070627-aximx50v.rootfs.tar.bz2
> > 
> >    * the linux kernel:
> > 
> >      [aximx50 series]
> > http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50/zImage-2.6.20-hh2
> > +cvs20070316-aximx50-20070316105623
> >      [aximx50v series]
> > http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50v/zImage-2.6.21-hh9-aximx50v-20070625071129
> > 
> >    * HaRET:
> > 
> >      http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/haret-0.4.8.exe
> > 
> >    * A default.txt that tells HaRET how to boot the kernel:
> > 
> >      http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/default.txt
> > 
> > 2) Prepare
> > 
> > The SD card needs to be partitioned into two partitions: one small FAT
> > partition that WinCE can see, and one EXT2 partition used as root file
> > system. I'll assume that the block device of the SD card is
> > called /dev/sda. Replace this with the correct device on your system.
> > Instruction could be slightly different for each version of fdisk :
> > 
> >     * Delete all partitions on the SD card:
> > 
> >     fdisk /dev/sda
> >     d
> >     1
> >     d
> >     2
> >     d
> >     3
> > 
> >     * Create partitions, for example a 10MB /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
> > using the rest:
> > 
> >     fdisk /dev/sda
> >     n
> >     p
> >     1
> >     <default> (should be cylinder 1)
> >     +10M
> >     n
> >     p
> >     2
> >     <default>
> >     <default> (should be last cylinder of the card)
> >     t
> >     1
> >     4
> >     w
> > 
> >    * Create file systems, a VFAT on /dev/sda1 and EXT2 on /dev/sda2:
> > 
> >      mkdosfs /dev/sda1
> >      mke2fs /dev/sda2
> > 
> >    * Copy HaRET, the kernel and default.txt onto sda1:
> > 
> >      mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
> >      [aximx50]  cp zImage-2.6.20-hh2
> > +cvs20070316-aximx50-20070316105623 /mnt/zImage
> >      [aximx50v] cp zImage-2.6.21-hh9-aximx50v-20070625071129 /mnt/zImage
> >      cp haret-0.4.8.exe /mnt/haret.exe
> >      cp default.txt /mnt/default.txt
> >      umount /dev/sda1
> > 
> >    * Unpack the GPE image onto sda2:
> > 
> >      mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
> > 
> > if mounted in Fedora with mouse from Computer /..to:    /media/disk
> >      [aximx50]  bzcat
> > Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070316-aximx50.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
> > (cd /media/disk; tar x)
> >      [aximx50v] bzcat
> > Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070627-aximx50v.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
> > (cd /media/disk; tar x)
> > 
> >      umount /media/disk
> > 
> > 3) Boot
> > 
> > Put the SD card into the axim, start haret.exe and tap the "Run"
> > button...
> > On X50v/X51v, enable Mirror Mode(Start -> Settings -> System>Mirror).
> > 
> > Note: If linux don't boot try turning WIFI and BLUETOOTH ON or only one
> > of them.
> > 
> > 4) Communicate
> > 
> > Mailing List: [email protected]
> > (https://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/aximx50-port)
> > Wiki: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50
> > 
> > 
> > You most likely need to edit the default.txt a little to have the
> > settings you want rigth from
> > the boot and not having to set so much by hand every time. They are for
> > haret, and goes to the SD-cards
> > FAT partition (FAT or FAT32 VFAT all works) .
> > I changed the ip-numbers, the first is for Axim, the second of the
> > internet connection eth-card of the machine
> >  it is connected with usb and third the gateway and  fifth the net
> > mask. 
> > 
> > Mikko Silvennoinen
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > > The installing was quite succesful, and
> > > easy, if you can find the instructions and can follow them.
> > > The more trickier part is to first back up everything.
> > > Also and especially the bios of Axim. And test if you can restore
> > > everything, if
> > > something goes wrong.
> > > It is not anyhow absolutely necessary with Axim X51v to back up bios.
> > > With some other models it is.
> > > It is safest to anyhow make sure you have a rigth new bios from Dell
> > > company web-site, and
> > > ability to load it, if something goes wrong. There is also some useful
> > > programs that is helpful
> > > to install on Axim, before doing anything dangerous to bios.
> > > 
> > > I have a laptop with Fedora 6 linux, which I used to do most of this,
> > > and you probably need a Windows machine
> > > to use for backup and installing programs for Axim, before proceeding
> > > and to prepare and to be able to
> > > load Dell factory bios back if something goes wrong, but 
> > > I recommend first everybody try to use the system you are most
> > > familiar with.
> > > If you only have Windows, and need some linux-system fast try:
> > > http://www.kanotix.org/changelang-eng.html
> > > it is a bootable live-linux cd, that is the best available now. It's
> > > up and running in minutes.
> > > I think, I will change more to Debian in the future, which I have on
> > > some machines.
> > > 
> > > Instructions: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/x50vHowTo
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Once booted the Ångström-image from SD-card, everything else works
> > > reasonably well, but
> > > the trouble is, that when trying to type text with the small virtual
> > > keyboard
> > > on the touch screen, it is often difficult, because, there is
> > > something wrong
> > > with the calibration system or some settings of the touch screen.
> > > I don't yet exactly know what it is, but, somebody said earlier, that,
> > > it could be
> > > something in the kernel. There migth be something in some settings
> > > file, that could be an other reason, but I don't know.
> > > If there is something wrong in the kernel, it must be fixed first.
> > > If it is of some settings file fixing it by editing is possible, but
> > > you would have to know
> > > where to look for.
> > > Then also installing an other windowing system could work. Like I
> > > think, the Google android is
> > > one possible. Someone said earlier he wants to try that. There are
> > > several others that are possible.
> > > I think it depends on, what you want to use your Axim for, that you
> > > can make a sensible choice.
> > > At first the most sensible is, what works at all. Later you could have
> > > even several different SD-cards 
> > > for different systems.
> > > We would have to make a better version of the Ångström-image with the
> > > problem fixed.
> > > Has anyone a bluetooth keyboard that would work with Axim and linux,
> > > that migth be a temporary
> > > work around, so you can use the current image better, to study it and
> > > try to fix it on-line ?
> > > 
> > > Mikko
> > > 
> > > Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote: 
> > >     
> > > > Hi Mikko,
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for your quick reply. How successful were you installing linux on
> > > > your x51v ?
> > > > 
> > > > what did you need to install it and what problems do u have?
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Stavros 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mikko Silvennoinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Reply-To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
> > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
> > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
> > > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:25:44 +0300
> > > > 
> > > > Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
> > > >   
> > > >       
> > > > > Greetings all,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is this effort still alive?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > 
> > > > >   
> > > > >     
> > > > >         
> > > > Some are still trying something.
> > > > Although I noticed, that the certificate of the secure-pages on 
> > > > web-site 
> > > > is outdated.
> > > > If your browser is configured rigth, it should complain about this.
> > > > Who is responsible of maintaining the list web-page ?
> > > > 
> > > > Has anybody the .config -file of the kernel source-code for Axim 
> > > > (ARM-processor kernel),
> > > > I have Axim X51v. I am planning to maybe reconfigure it, in hope of 
> > > > correcting the
> > > > problem of the touch-screen-keyboard and touch screen calibration, (by 
> > > > using command: make xconfig) and
> > > > changing what want/need, and recompiling from newest source-code.
> > > > 
> > > > Mikko Silvennoinen
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > >       
> > 
> > 
> >   
> 

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