Thanks for the tutorial Mikko!

In those days where i was involved we managed to get a telnet
connection through the cradle heh.
Aren't you using HaReT? We were using it to load the system images of
the linux distribution for the PDA. It's quite clean and you don't
need to reformat the SD card.

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Stavros Fox Polymenis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Right ok,
>
>  Put up a ftp. Ill create a page where we can put information on the
>  project at www.orbitalfox.com/labs.php . If the project goes well, i can
>  make a completely separate page for it on my server. What would the
>  website need?
>
>  My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Where are we putting the new mailing
>  list? I can host mailing lists on my server, but id rather not. Google
>  would be a good option.
>
>  Let me know when the ftp is ready.
>
>  Stavros
>
>
>
>  On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 13:23 +0300, Mikko Silvennoinen wrote:
>  > There is something wrong with the web-site.
>  > Some of the stuff can be found elsewhere in the web, but it migth be
>  > hard to get everything.
>  > I haven't tried really hard to find out what's the situation of the
>  > web-site, but I think it migth be
>  > down because of lack of money or interest.
>  > I think it would be great if you could put up a new one and a backup
>  > mailing-list if this one stops
>  > working. I think irc-channel is not so good, because often there is
>  > information lost and
>  > not everybody is getting it.
>  > I can put up an FTP-server and put all the stuff there.
>  > When I get it up, you should get it all and save it on a cd.
>  > To re-create the mailing list/ backup everybody who wants to make sure
>  > to stay with in the future
>  > should send their e-mail-address directly to me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
>  > Stavros , who must let us know to what address ?
>  > Or who wants can put their e-mail addresses on this list to make sure
>  > all others get it.
>  > I can make a link for further info to my web-page
>  > http://www.bittiainen.com or
>  > at some point http://www.pwar.net or if those break for some reason to
>  > http://www.sci.fi/~topweb/
>  >
>  > Mikko Silvennoinen
>  >
>  > Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
>  > > OK i just tried to get the kernel and the rest but non of the links
>  > > work :(
>  > >
>  > > Any ideas?
>  > >
>  > > Stavros Polymenis
>  > >
>  > > -----Original Message-----
>  > > From: Mikko Silvennoinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > > Reply-To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
>  > > <[email protected]>
>  > > To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
>  > > <[email protected]>
>  > > Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
>  > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:48:50 +0300
>  > >
>  > > Easiest making the SD-card:
>  > > I used gparted on a linux desktop for partitioning the SD-card and
>  > > formatting it, qparted works well too,
>  > > found from System Tools menu.
>  > > You can use your linux desktop's archiving tool-programs found usually
>  > > from Accessories menu for
>  > > unarchiving the Ångström image to the  formatted ext2 partition on the
>  > > SD-card.
>  > > Or better first  to hard drive, and then copy to SD.
>  > >  Try Krusader with root mode found e.g. on  Kanotix  live linux cd for
>  > > tools.
>  > > Or more  widely on almost every linux desktop: Konqueror-web-browser,
>  > > with this trick:
>  > > Start it and from menu: Settings > Load View Profile > Midnigth
>  > > Commander.
>  > > You can make changes to settings and save the view-profile with an other
>  > > name.
>  > > e.g. FileCommander, then make a new launcer for it to panel and put to
>  > > the "command":
>  > > fmclient openProfile FileCommander
>  > >
>  > > These are more thorough instructions on what needs to be accomplished:
>  > > (I don't know if all the web-links are up to date, but most was
>  > > originally found from http://www.altavista.com  )
>  > > Note: This Readme is a modified Version from
>  > > http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/magician/README
>  > >
>  > > 0) Select correct Image
>  > >
>  > > First you have do know which device you have. Select the aximx50 (non
>  > > vga) image for the following devices:
>  > >
>  > >    * Dell Axim x50
>  > >    * Dell Axim x51
>  > >
>  > > or select the aximx50v (with vga display) image for the following
>  > > devices:
>  > >
>  > >    * Dell Axim x50v
>  > >    * Dell Axim x51v
>  > >
>  > > 1) Download
>  > >
>  > > To boot the experimental GPE image from SD card on a aximx50, you'll
>  > > need the following files:
>  > >
>  > >    * the experimental GPE image itself:
>  > >
>  > >      [aximx50 series]
>  > > 
> http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50/Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070316-aximx50.rootfs.tar.bz2
>  > >      [aximx50v series]
>  > > 
> http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50v/Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070627-aximx50v.rootfs.tar.bz2
>  > >
>  > >    * the linux kernel:
>  > >
>  > >      [aximx50 series]
>  > > http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50/zImage-2.6.20-hh2
>  > > +cvs20070316-aximx50-20070316105623
>  > >      [aximx50v series]
>  > > 
> http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/aximx50v/zImage-2.6.21-hh9-aximx50v-20070625071129
>  > >
>  > >    * HaRET:
>  > >
>  > >      http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/haret-0.4.8.exe
>  > >
>  > >    * A default.txt that tells HaRET how to boot the kernel:
>  > >
>  > >      http://law.hostsen.net/oe/axim/default.txt
>  > >
>  > > 2) Prepare
>  > >
>  > > The SD card needs to be partitioned into two partitions: one small FAT
>  > > partition that WinCE can see, and one EXT2 partition used as root file
>  > > system. I'll assume that the block device of the SD card is
>  > > called /dev/sda. Replace this with the correct device on your system.
>  > > Instruction could be slightly different for each version of fdisk :
>  > >
>  > >     * Delete all partitions on the SD card:
>  > >
>  > >     fdisk /dev/sda
>  > >     d
>  > >     1
>  > >     d
>  > >     2
>  > >     d
>  > >     3
>  > >
>  > >     * Create partitions, for example a 10MB /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
>  > > using the rest:
>  > >
>  > >     fdisk /dev/sda
>  > >     n
>  > >     p
>  > >     1
>  > >     <default> (should be cylinder 1)
>  > >     +10M
>  > >     n
>  > >     p
>  > >     2
>  > >     <default>
>  > >     <default> (should be last cylinder of the card)
>  > >     t
>  > >     1
>  > >     4
>  > >     w
>  > >
>  > >    * Create file systems, a VFAT on /dev/sda1 and EXT2 on /dev/sda2:
>  > >
>  > >      mkdosfs /dev/sda1
>  > >      mke2fs /dev/sda2
>  > >
>  > >    * Copy HaRET, the kernel and default.txt onto sda1:
>  > >
>  > >      mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
>  > >      [aximx50]  cp zImage-2.6.20-hh2
>  > > +cvs20070316-aximx50-20070316105623 /mnt/zImage
>  > >      [aximx50v] cp zImage-2.6.21-hh9-aximx50v-20070625071129 /mnt/zImage
>  > >      cp haret-0.4.8.exe /mnt/haret.exe
>  > >      cp default.txt /mnt/default.txt
>  > >      umount /dev/sda1
>  > >
>  > >    * Unpack the GPE image onto sda2:
>  > >
>  > >      mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
>  > >
>  > > if mounted in Fedora with mouse from Computer /..to:    /media/disk
>  > >      [aximx50]  bzcat
>  > > Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070316-aximx50.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
>  > > (cd /media/disk; tar x)
>  > >      [aximx50v] bzcat
>  > > Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070627-aximx50v.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
>  > > (cd /media/disk; tar x)
>  > >
>  > >      umount /media/disk
>  > >
>  > > 3) Boot
>  > >
>  > > Put the SD card into the axim, start haret.exe and tap the "Run"
>  > > button...
>  > > On X50v/X51v, enable Mirror Mode(Start -> Settings -> System>Mirror).
>  > >
>  > > Note: If linux don't boot try turning WIFI and BLUETOOTH ON or only one
>  > > of them.
>  > >
>  > > 4) Communicate
>  > >
>  > > Mailing List: [email protected]
>  > > (https://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/aximx50-port)
>  > > Wiki: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > You most likely need to edit the default.txt a little to have the
>  > > settings you want rigth from
>  > > the boot and not having to set so much by hand every time. They are for
>  > > haret, and goes to the SD-cards
>  > > FAT partition (FAT or FAT32 VFAT all works) .
>  > > I changed the ip-numbers, the first is for Axim, the second of the
>  > > internet connection eth-card of the machine
>  > >  it is connected with usb and third the gateway and  fifth the net
>  > > mask.
>  > >
>  > > Mikko Silvennoinen
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > > The installing was quite succesful, and
>  > > > easy, if you can find the instructions and can follow them.
>  > > > The more trickier part is to first back up everything.
>  > > > Also and especially the bios of Axim. And test if you can restore
>  > > > everything, if
>  > > > something goes wrong.
>  > > > It is not anyhow absolutely necessary with Axim X51v to back up bios.
>  > > > With some other models it is.
>  > > > It is safest to anyhow make sure you have a rigth new bios from Dell
>  > > > company web-site, and
>  > > > ability to load it, if something goes wrong. There is also some useful
>  > > > programs that is helpful
>  > > > to install on Axim, before doing anything dangerous to bios.
>  > > >
>  > > > I have a laptop with Fedora 6 linux, which I used to do most of this,
>  > > > and you probably need a Windows machine
>  > > > to use for backup and installing programs for Axim, before proceeding
>  > > > and to prepare and to be able to
>  > > > load Dell factory bios back if something goes wrong, but
>  > > > I recommend first everybody try to use the system you are most
>  > > > familiar with.
>  > > > If you only have Windows, and need some linux-system fast try:
>  > > > http://www.kanotix.org/changelang-eng.html
>  > > > it is a bootable live-linux cd, that is the best available now. It's
>  > > > up and running in minutes.
>  > > > I think, I will change more to Debian in the future, which I have on
>  > > > some machines.
>  > > >
>  > > > Instructions: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/x50vHowTo
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > Once booted the Ångström-image from SD-card, everything else works
>  > > > reasonably well, but
>  > > > the trouble is, that when trying to type text with the small virtual
>  > > > keyboard
>  > > > on the touch screen, it is often difficult, because, there is
>  > > > something wrong
>  > > > with the calibration system or some settings of the touch screen.
>  > > > I don't yet exactly know what it is, but, somebody said earlier, that,
>  > > > it could be
>  > > > something in the kernel. There migth be something in some settings
>  > > > file, that could be an other reason, but I don't know.
>  > > > If there is something wrong in the kernel, it must be fixed first.
>  > > > If it is of some settings file fixing it by editing is possible, but
>  > > > you would have to know
>  > > > where to look for.
>  > > > Then also installing an other windowing system could work. Like I
>  > > > think, the Google android is
>  > > > one possible. Someone said earlier he wants to try that. There are
>  > > > several others that are possible.
>  > > > I think it depends on, what you want to use your Axim for, that you
>  > > > can make a sensible choice.
>  > > > At first the most sensible is, what works at all. Later you could have
>  > > > even several different SD-cards
>  > > > for different systems.
>  > > > We would have to make a better version of the Ångström-image with the
>  > > > problem fixed.
>  > > > Has anyone a bluetooth keyboard that would work with Axim and linux,
>  > > > that migth be a temporary
>  > > > work around, so you can use the current image better, to study it and
>  > > > try to fix it on-line ?
>  > > >
>  > > > Mikko
>  > > >
>  > > > Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > > Hi Mikko,
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Thanks for your quick reply. How successful were you installing 
> linux on
>  > > > > your x51v ?
>  > > > >
>  > > > > what did you need to install it and what problems do u have?
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Regards,
>  > > > > Stavros
>  > > > >
>  > > > > -----Original Message-----
>  > > > > From: Mikko Silvennoinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > > > > Reply-To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
>  > > > > <[email protected]>
>  > > > > To: The porting effort for the Dell Axim x50
>  > > > > <[email protected]>
>  > > > > Subject: Re: [Aximx50-port] Still alive?
>  > > > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:25:44 +0300
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Stavros Fox Polymenis wrote:
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > > > Greetings all,
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > > Is this effort still alive?
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > > Regards
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > >
>  > > > > Some are still trying something.
>  > > > > Although I noticed, that the certificate of the secure-pages on 
> web-site
>  > > > > is outdated.
>  > > > > If your browser is configured rigth, it should complain about this.
>  > > > > Who is responsible of maintaining the list web-page ?
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Has anybody the .config -file of the kernel source-code for Axim
>  > > > > (ARM-processor kernel),
>  > > > > I have Axim X51v. I am planning to maybe reconfigure it, in hope of
>  > > > > correcting the
>  > > > > problem of the touch-screen-keyboard and touch screen calibration, 
> (by
>  > > > > using command: make xconfig) and
>  > > > > changing what want/need, and recompiling from newest source-code.
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Mikko Silvennoinen
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
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