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That's exactly that's being done so far on the osgi module in various stages of completion :) [Except for the last item] thansk, dims Paul Fremantle wrote: | I think the ideal outcome would be this: | | * Firstly we allow Axis2 to work cleanly in a OSGi environment. | * We also allow Axis2 to work in a non-OSGi environment (full | backwards compatibility). | * We define an extension to Axis2 that is available as a separate JAR | that enables OSGi | * If the OSGi extension is available, then that enables OSGi | deployment of services and modules | * In other words, there is a well-defined way of creating a bundle | that is a service and a bundle that is a module, and once the OSGi | extension is enabled, the OSGi discovery mechanisms pick up the | extensions. | * Axis2 transports could also have OSGi metadata in the JAR so that | these could use OSGi to be enabled if OSGi is enabled. | | I don't know if this is possible :) | | Paul | | | On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Deepal jayasinghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> Saminda Abeyruwan wrote: |>> ================================================= |>> |>> 1. When aar/mar behavior is mimicked in an OSGi bundle, these bundles be |>> able to live in different class spaces. |>> ex: If the bundles needed different hibernate versions they can be |>> easily plug into different class spaces. |> With the existing Axis2 class loaders you can easily do that , so no new |> thing is going to add :) |>> 2. We will be able to have multiple version of Axis2 instancres running |>> inside same JVM. |>> This require the need of minimizing System properties. |> This is YAGNI. |>> 3. Axis2 will be able to initiate same transport with different versions. |>> This will require proper integration of OSGi services. I haven't touched |>> this area yet, otherwise whole situation will be overwhelming. |> What is the value of this , aren't we trying to build castles in the sky |> ;-) |>> 4. OSGi life-cycle support. This will give the ability to |>> start/stop/install/update/uninstall bundles. |>> ex: I have myModule.jar which would mimic myModule.mar. We will be able |>> use the above actions to to manipulate the AxisModule as we need. |> Yes , this a valid point that we can consider. |>> 5. Once a user has written a bundle (which mimic aar/mar/transport/etc), |>> they just need to upload them into a "Axis2 bundle repository", where the |>> community can search them and install them into there system, without |>> shutting down the running system. |>> |> So isnt this same as service hot deployment ? |>> 6. OSGi event framework. When bundle is (aar/mar/transport/etc) |>> install/started/updated/uninstall, using OSGi events other bundles can |>> change there behaviour. |> We already have this in Axis2. I know places like WSO2 WSAS they use this |> feature a lot. |>> 7. When bundle are properly designed, one will be able to deploy these |>> bundles in any OSGi environment. Most of the app servers are in the path of |>> supporting OSGi. All we have to do is to drop our bundles in their |>> repositories and start them |> I do not see a big value of this with respect to Web services containers. |>> 8. User can use resources (html/jsp/ etc) needed for aar/mar in bundles. |> You can already do with Axis2 services aar file , by adding "WWW" directory |> in the services aar file you can achieve almost all the power you have |> mentioned. |>> |>> 8. Once the ConfigurationContext become an OSGi service, any bundle can |>> access it and use it. |> Yes :) |>> 9. People will be able to use OSGi registry to register POJOs as OSGi |>> services and make them as web services |>> (http://www.knopflerfish.org/releases/current/doc/bundledoc/index.html) |> But with Axis2 you can expose POJO as Web services in very straightforward |> manner. |>> 10. People would need minimum effort to integrate into OSGi powered |>> Spring etc. |> Agreed. |> |> Thank you! |> Deepal |> |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- |> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> |> | | | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Cygwin) iD8DBQFIVloagNg6eWEDv1kRAk4LAJ9L46jJOZb/53Fp1Y6ZVpxL3CXdJQCgpPJE gkMLLkWQRzPvjKtRM+KbE+4= =z4aB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]