Let's flip the question, What do you have with Status Quo that you are so opposed to change for the better?
-- dims On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How does becoming a TLP change the status quo for getting things done? > > Sanjiva. > > Davanum Srinivas wrote: >> >> No one is asking that everyone needs to get excited at the proposal. >> If people are interested, let it move forward. If no one is >> interested, it will just drop dead. If people take this forward, they >> will decide what to do next when the TLP is formed, no one will be >> forced to sign up for work or need to get excited unnecessarily. >> >> In other words, Status Quo sucks! let's try something. If it works >> that's fine. If it doesn't there will be just another TLP. Hey we get >> one more guy to become a VP :) >> >> thanks, >> dims >> >> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Deepal jayasinghe wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Personally, I'd really like to get all of us committed, willing and >>>>> able to contribute in a much more coordinated fashion then we are >>>>> today. We don't hang out on IRC, no weekly chats, not much forward >>>>> looking discussions, not much enthusiasm or cooperation anymore from >>>>> looking at the mailing lists. I am trying to see if we can jumpstart >>>>> that as well with this proposal. >>>>> >>>> Well part of the reason behind that is everyone is busy with their day >>>> to day work , >>>> for example when we start Axis2 we were fully focus on Axis2 . >>>> So it was so easy for us to do all those , but now we work on Axis2 and >>>> answer the mail >>>> when we get some free time. Anyway I agree that there are some >>>> improvements that we need to do. >>> >>> Also the other reason IMO is that axis2 is mostly "done" .. I have no >>> objection at all to someone starting an axis3 or doing a lot of changes >>> to >>> axis2, but I personally don't have major problems that I see need to be >>> fixed in axis2. Yes there are tons of JIRAs and lots of small issues, but >>> those don't warrant / motivate the types of weekly chats and >>> architectural >>> conversations that we had in the early days. >>> >>> IMO the kernel of a SOAP stack is mostly a solved problem now. I think >>> even >>> CXF is seeing that .. and you don't see people writing new soap stacks >>> any >>> more! >>> >>> Again, if someone has a cool idea for a radical innovation what would >>> drive >>> yet another order of magnitude improvement (or there abouts) then I'm all >>> ears for it. I personally haven't "seen the light" on how to improve the >>> core of Axis2 & CXF any more at this point. That absolutely could change >>> tomorrow, next week, next month or next year but not today, at least for >>> me. >>> I'm not talking about incremental changes but rather radical innovation - >>> the type of thing that will grab people and get their creative juices >>> flowing. >>> >>> IMO a lot of the work that's interesting is now going on around Axis2, >>> not >>> in the core of it. Example, writing new deployers that plug in more >>> stuff, >>> writing cool transports etc. etc. - those all hang around axis2 but that >>> doesn't make axis2 itself really improve. >>> >>> Sanjiva. >>> -- >>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. >>> Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ >>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/ >>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ >>> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/ >>> >>> Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/ >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> > > > -- > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/ > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/ > > Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Davanum Srinivas :: http://davanum.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
