If we can find people to man the PMC's and act as chair, sure, let's
get more projects as TLP's.

-- dims

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana
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> Glen, so if you agree that its a TLP with Axis2 + up stream and downstream
> projects then why not push the other stuff from ws into their own TLPs? If
> we want to consider a new name for the ws project that's an option too but
> that's a different issue isn't it?
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> Glen Daniels wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sanjiva:
>>
>> Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>>>
>>> Also the other reason IMO is that axis2 is mostly "done" .. I have no
>>> objection at all to someone starting an axis3 or doing a lot of changes to
>>> axis2, but I personally don't have major problems that I see need to be
>>> fixed in axis2. Yes there are tons of JIRAs and lots of small issues, but
>>> those don't warrant / motivate the types of weekly chats and architectural
>>> conversations that we had in the early days.
>>
>> HTTPD has been around a lot longer than the WS project.  Despite its
>> "bakedness", people routinely fix bugs, usability issues, submit patches,
>> etc.  The development community is often around on IRC.  In short, it's an
>> active and functional community around a live codebase.
>>
>> I think Axis2 is, honestly, far from "done".  And a bunch of the 515(!)
>> JIRAs as of right now are real problems with either functionality or
>> usability.  We're not seeing these getting picked off on any kind of regular
>> basis, so regardless of the TLP decision I think it's clear that the team as
>> a whole needs to pay a little more attention to the project, and get that
>> sense of active and functional community back.
>>
>>> IMO a lot of the work that's interesting is now going on around Axis2,
>>> not in the core of it. Example, writing new deployers that plug in more
>>> stuff, writing cool transports etc. etc. - those all hang around axis2 but
>>> that doesn't make axis2 itself really improve.
>>
>> Two things here - first, I think that those kinds of things DO make Axis2
>> itself improve, because they often stretch the boundaries in ways that
>> demonstrate blind spots or problems in the core (example - async transports
>> and the core threading (or lack thereof) model).  Second, you're exactly
>> right that there is a lot of work going on around Axis2, which is why making
>> it a TLP with Rampart, Sandesha, etc., as subprojects seems to make a lot of
>> sense.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --Glen
>>
>>
>> --Glen
>>
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