Certainly don't throw-in-the-towel on axis. Developers, just keep in mind that the axis users end up with the decisive vote as to how well axis 'worked'. You have to program with your voters in mind. We are just one co. fighting our own set of battles. We are disappointed we couldn't use axis during this transitional phase in java. So as not to fan the flames this will be my last 'thought on the matter' - I kindly thank all of the axis contributors for their time and effort - We'll be back I'm sure.
I re-iterate - the inability of a co. to use axis for its intended purpose is a non-trivial event. Think about it, do what you can to keep it from happening to another co. Good luck, have fun, thanks for listening. Kurt Kurt Olsen | Software Engineer| EzRez Software, Inc. 3465 Waialae Avenue, Suite 200 | Honolulu | HI | 96816 p 808-735-9260 x 238 | f 808-748-0488 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.ezrez.com This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient) and received this message in error; any use, distribution or disclosure is strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message from your computer system. The views and opinions expressed in this email are those of the sender and do not necessarily reflect the views or policies of EzRez Software, except when the sender expressly and with authority states them to be so. -----Original Message----- From: Ayers, Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 6:24 AM To: axis-user@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: I give up I agree. No single e-mail participant represents the entire list. But everyone is free to speak their mind - this includes folks who have feedback and folks who would like to see a particular discussion thread end :-) All that being said, my personal opinion is that it is a mistake to "throw in the towel" regarding use of axis. A better approach is to understand its present deficiencies and limitations, and to help the community improve it over time. Regards, Sam -----Original Message----- From: Tom Oinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:05 AM To: axis-user@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: I give up Guy Rixon wrote: > On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Nathaniel G. Auvil wrote: > >> Can we please stop this thread? > > Fine. If you don't want advice I won't waste my time. As a (mostly) external observer to all this I would point out that regarding all criticisms as unhelpful and non constructive unless they come with source code, patches and man hours of effort is foolish. Most users of axis have no time to enhance it directly, but users are also far and away the most valuable asset the project has. Axis is not without its flaws but my experience has been that the active developers have been happy to engage with me to help me work around them or figure out where improvements can be made even though I don't have the resources to contribute directly myself. Please don't give up on the project, the person suggesting stopping this thread does not speak for everyone involved; an accurate and reasoned explanation of a problem is, if not welcome (no one likes hearing when their code doesn't work!) then at least appreciated as helpful feedback even without any corresponding solution. Regards, Tom Learn more about Chase Paymentech Solutions,LLC payment processing services at www.paymentech.com THIS MESSAGE IS CONFIDENTIAL. This e-mail message and any attachments are proprietary and confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not print, distribute, or copy this message or any attachments. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete this message and any attachments from your computer. ..
