Hi thilina,
We are using Axis2 inside an commercial software which allready ships with
many libraries. Because we don't (yet) use a dependency resolution
mechanism, any developer adds libraries he thinks he will need. If
implementations change, libs may become obsolete. If we don't keep track of
this obsolete libs, our classpath would be full of garbage and our
distribution package would be very large.

Because of that, e.g. logging is very tricky if you are using lots of third
party libs. Every lib may use another logging framework/facade. But to trace
back possible errors it would be nice that all components log to the same
destination. So there are some logging-facades available (commons-logging,
slf4j). The components should use this facades for logging and don't need to
mind where the log goes to. Because of that, I don't think that slf4j-jdk14
is an required dependency for this project.

regards,
Gerhard


Thilina Buddhika wrote:
> 
> Hi Gerhard,
> 
> Please see my comments inline.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 1:21 PM, gerhard presser
> <gpres...@groiss.com>wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hi Nandana,
>> -)Thanks for the explanation. Will the opensaml1.1 references be cleared
>> out
>> in the final release?
>>
> 
> IMO porting the SAML 1.1 code to use OpenSAML 2.x needs significant amount
> of work, since there is a drastic API change from OpenSAML 1.1 to OpenSAML
> 2.x. So I think this will not be fixed in the Rampart 1.5 release.
> 
> 
>> -)At least the slf4j-jdk14 lib should be obsolete if another logging
>> framework is used!?
>>
> 
> This is an added dependency from OpenSAML 2. OpenSAML 2 uses slf4j for its
> internal logging requirements.
> 
>> regards,
>> Gerhard
>>
>>
> Is there anything that restricts you from using these jars ? If so please
> post it here, we can look for an alternative if possible..
> 
> Thanks.
> / thilina
> 
> 
>>
>>
>> Nunny wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Gerhard,
>> >             In the last comment of the related issue [1], Thilina
>> explains
>> > why we need to have both OpenSAML jars in the distribution. Nope,
>> > unfortunately there are no obsolete jars included. Do you want to
>> reduce
>> > size or are you facing any other issue ?
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Nandana
>> >
>> > [1] -
>> >
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RAMPART-231?focusedCommentId=12757014&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12757014
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:55 PM, gerhard presser
>> > <gpres...@groiss.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >> Why are there two different versions of opensaml included in the
>> >> dist-package?
>> >> Are there any obsolete jars if I'm using axis2 with java 1.5?
>> >> regards,
>> >> gerhard
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Nunny wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi All,
>> >> >      Apache Rampart 1.5 (Rampart version for Axis2 1.5) Release
>> >> Candidate
>> >> > is
>> >> > available here.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/rampart-1.5/RC1/dist/<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/rampart-1.5/RC1/dist/>
>> <http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/rampart-1.5/RC1/dist/>
>> >> >
>> >> > And the M2 repository can be found here.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://people.apache.org/~nandana/rampart-1.5/RC1/m2_repo/<http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/rampart-1.5/RC1/m2_repo/>
>> <http://people.apache.org/%7Enandana/rampart-1.5/RC1/m2_repo/>
>> >> >
>> >> > Please test and report any issues you may find.
>> >> >
>> >> > regards,
>> >> > Nandana
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
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