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From: "Anne Thomas Manes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 14:27
Subject: RE: UTF-16 with Axis


> I realize that Axis doesn't currently conform to WS-I Basic Profile, but I
> would think that there'd be some consensus that it would be a "good thing"
> to consider making it happen. Given that IBM, Macromedia, and Borland all
> participate in WS-I, and they all use Axis within their products, I'd
expect
> that they'll push to make it happen.

does borland use axis, I never knew

> WS-I is the only formal organization that is attemption to ensure
> interoperability for the current round of Web services specs (SOAP 1.1,
WSDL
> 1.1, UDDI 2.0).

well, I'd say soapbuilders is more useful there. ws-i is trying to lay down
architectural stuff : 'you will only use doc/lit', 'you will not use SwA,
you will use DIME'. So axis is a long way from the fundamental compliance.

> Only UDDI 2.0 will ever achieve the status of an official
> standard (via OASIS). W3C isn't doing anything around these specs. W3C is
> developing SOAP 1.2 and WSDL 1.2. SOAP 1.2 might be finished by Q1 next
> year. WSDL 1.2 won't be finished until Q4 next year (if they maintain
their
> current schedule). So if interoperability is an important goal within the
> next 12-18 months, WS-I Basic Profile is the only way to go.

see http://iseran.com/Steve/papers/interop for my stance. 18 months? WS-I?
maybe. 6-12: soapbuilders. Now: you.


> (And by the way, W3C is not an official international de jure standards
> organization. It's just a consortium of vendors that work together to
> develop specifications using a process governed by the bylaws of the
> consortium. WS-I is also a consortium of vendors that work together to
> develop specifications using a process governed by the bylaws of the
> consortium. I don't really see much difference. I've participated in
> standards development at W3C, OASIS, UDDI, and WS-I. Each consortium has
> slightly different bylaws, but for the most part, the process is the
same.)

Well, W3C has more of a stance of taking architectural rather than political
decisions. Though they did give the world XML Schema...

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