Yeah, I know...that's my point!

Folks that design XML Schemas are not like us: they don't realize that if
you get something wrong then the schemas won't work. We are left to sort out
the mess!!!


Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: "Arno Huetter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 2:42 PM
Subject: AW: WSDL2Java does not create any output on complex XSD imports


> Hi there,
>
> I would like to point out that I did not create those XSD files, they come
> from a third party vendor. I just happen to have to integrate their
> webservices into our software.
>
> Kind regards,
> Arno Huetter
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Dezember 2003 19:25
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: WSDL2Java does not create any output on complex XSD imports
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Unfortunately, there's no shortage of cretins out there that think just
> because they can type that qualifies them to develop XML Schemas (text
files
> save to disk without a problem; no problem saving => works fine!). Anyway,
> sometimes there are cyclic references between XML Schema documents or
within
> an XML Schema document tree. The XML Schema specification is silent on
> cyclic references but only a cretin would produce such a tree. WSDL2Java
> follows cyclic references and thus times out or overflows its stack or
runs
> out of memory when cyclic references are present.
>
> The solution, is to manually edit the schema documents, of course.
>
> So long as scientists, etc. fail to put in the effort to understand XML
> Schema, we are going to have many problems dealing with their junk.
> Unfortunately, because the schemas are very large (1000+ elements for some
> OGC schemas, for example), few folks, if any, get to stress-test them
before
> they are released as a 'standard'. I am spending more time these days
trying
> to stitch together XML Schema documents to form coherent XML Schemas.
> (Another problem occurs when an XML Schema references multiple versions of
> other XML Schemas, e.g. directly referencing GML 3 and ISO19115  _but_
> ISO19115 references GML 2 ... GML 3 and GML 2 are incompatible, of
course!).
>
>
> Jeff Lawson
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arno Huetter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:20 AM
> Subject: Re: WSDL2Java does not create any output on complex XSD imports
>
>
> > I run Axis 1.1. The original XSD files used to have tons of XSD-includes
> > (not sure if there were any cyclic includes, though), like:
> >
> > <include schemaLocation="Types.xsd"/>
> >
> > Which I replaced by corresponding imports within the WSDL file:
> >
> > <import location="Types.xsd"/>
> >
> > I simply imported all XSD files that existed (originally the WSDL file
> just
> > imported XSD files for types that were directly addressed, but no nested
> > types). This solved the issue.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Arno Huetter
> >
> > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Dan Christopherson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Dezember 2003 16:38
> > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Betreff: Re: WSDL2Java does not create any output on complex XSD imports
> >
> >
> > What version of Axis were you using? Was the import in the wsdl a
> > wsdl:import or an xsd:import? I've
> > done some experimentation with a wsdl importing an xsd that imports xsds
> > that import xsds (although
> > not as many). The 1.2 alpha was pretty close to working, except for the
> > mixed="true" problem on
> > complextypes, which may not effect you.
> >
> > We did use a wsdl:import to import the initial xsd, though, rather than
> the
> > 'correct' xsd:import. I
> > don't know if that effects axis or not: we did that to coddle a
different
> > tool.
> >
> > Also, do you have another way of validating the wsdl?
> >
> > Another thought would be to increase the max heap size of the process
> > WSDL2Java is running in - a
> > silent termination makes me thing that there might be some issue there.
> >
> > HTH,
> > danch
> >
> > Arno Huetter wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > when I invoke WSDL2Java on a certain WSDL, which imports several XSD
> > files,
> > > which then again import a net of further XSD files (about 100 of them)
> > > containing more XSD types, there is absolutely no output generated. At
> > first
> > > this was an issue of a low default timeout value (and there was an
> > according
> > > error message), but then since passing "-O -1" (infinite timeout),
> > WSDL2Java
> > > simply produces no output (and no error message either), but simply
> > > terminates after a couple of seconds.
> > >
> > > What finally solved the problem was to manually move all the imports
up
> to
> > > the WSDL file itself, which now imports all XSD files directly, and to
> > > remove all imports within the XSD files.
> > >
> > > It took me hours to find out what's wrong. I would appreciate this
issue
> > to
> > > be fixed in the next release.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Arno Huetter
> > >
> >
> >
>

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