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To: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 8 May 2008 20:12:27 +0200Subject: RE: [aymara] potaje quechua bajo tierra para mi tocayo VOICE AUTOLOGICIAN OF THE TAWANTINSUYU.For: Augusto Caña Mamani "Sinshi Cahuide" Before the situation uncertain in that there live our brothers indigenous to Bolivia and the people Mapuche of Chile: the moment Has come summit of thought with real sense STUDENT OF AMERICAN INDIANS of fight of liberation, who for incredulous others is a Utopia: perhaps is not it true that during centuries of European oppression, our peoples(villages) only they know big big waves of invasion that flooded our vast territory of the today America?.The Republican "independences" that were showing off be true and that enclosed seemed to have been fulfilled; nevertheless, with to run of the time, his(her,your) mask took from itself seudo "patriotically" that turned out to be false and sterile. Opposite to this deception, really we want to be owners of our own(proper) destination(destiny), to be the ploughmen of the ruts of our mother land, in spite of having hope, faith and will humanizes; we want it him(you,them) make real this, it(he,she) does not have for that to find obstacle and does not have for that to be a simple dream.Since it(he,she) it was in the antiquity(antique) and the omnipresent one, we must look at the sky that happens trimmed with stars, there it(he,she) takes root in our original room; we always must recognize as deity to the great Universal spirit PACHAKAMAC, which has given us the life, which us has supported our existence and has taken us to this time. Therefore, like(as) Nation and ancient People(Village), always we must live joined our mother through land, our blood is impregnated in his(her,your) intimate heart, there our body is sealed from the instant of the creation.The Quechuan, Aymaras, Guarani and Mapuche, we are the powerful current demographically that we flow from them walk and we are taken root in the high jungle of the Amazonian basin; we are thousand-year-old civilization of deep roots and force of resistance of centuries; we are a robust seed buried under the land and soon we will return to emerge again as Renaissance Nation of the Tawantinsuyu. Our telluric shout will be like the words of fire that will burn in the head of the foreign oppressors: Want or do not agree, we are the nationalistic etno and our free destination(destiny) is in our native sign of the TAWANTINSUYU.If we do not fight for us themselves, who was fighting for us?, if now we do not join our blood, our faith and our destination(destiny) to fight for our certification freedom, following(continuing) the historical example of the Apu TUPAC AMARU, Túpac Katari, Pedro Willka Apaza, Rumimaki, Atusparia, etc: When and the one who was fighting for us? In the millenium TAWANTINSUYU, the etno international nationalism, will be a front of fight that was never acting deceitfully of his(her,your) plan, which means to claim JUSTICE and FREEDOM.Here there is a political demarcation: The Marxists and communists, however much they preach up to the weariness his(her,your) scientific socialism; these are alone as globes of test(essay) that them removes the wind, which also vainly they try to impose his(her,your) lifeguard of lead. In the TAWANTINSUYU, them they are like dancers in a foreign holiday (party); these red coyotes, here killing aborigens try to impose European solution and risk to do a "revolutionary" war without social base or historical root. (For saying this and other topics exposed already in advance, I receive threats of death and other blackmails, that of as soon as they it do before that I untie the real misunderstanding(mix-up) of blood). The instigadors of this belligerancy are Creole white types (In Peru, these putative children come from the quarry of the former gamonales and expired oligarches as(like): Carlos Les Colmenares, Javier Deis Canseco, Hugo Blanco Galdos, Abemail Guzmán Reinoso etc, are the immediate examples of this caste) these Creole hypocrites cannot look at the reality, it(he,she) will be by that his(her,your) mental cavity is infected by pest fabularía of the link colonialism of the transculturación I design politician European; this wants to say that: Which(Who) apes are a few asimiladores and also they it are numerary agents of the Jewish horrifying sionismo.Opposite to deliberate this one confusion, we as authentic nationalistic etno: First we have that investirnos in US THEMSELVES, the mask of humility to start(extract) ourselves, to break the chains that tie our lives; when we eliminate the hangmen who oppress(press) our people(village): We will Be the authentic REVOLUTIONARY ETNO, ETNO TUPAMARISTAS, ETNO mental, spiritual ACCERISTAS AND NATIONALISTIC ETNO, corporalmente and patriotically. The door of the this hope in view of our eyes, today only remains dazzled by the gray clouds of the foreign gaff. It(he) is imperative of that we must achieve our own(proper) destination(destiny) and in our own(proper) ones determine of here: We the nationalistic etno, we must restore I And our own(proper) land works; this will make us strong internally to go between(among) affrays and the conflicts of our liberation: Carajo, with blood and fire Tawantinsuyu fell down; of the same one, with blood and fire TAWANTINSUYU it(he,she) will get up!.With his(her,your) social base and root historical, the unbreakable and indissoluble destination(destiny) of the TAWANTINSUYU this one here, in a predictable future we will be a nation memorable, for while we live through ties to the regimenes of shift: Still(Yet) we are subject to the Republics stupidities as Argentina, Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Chile and Peru: geographical Influence of the former Tawantinsuyu: On this vast geography there has been restored(established) a sectarian empire of caste that dominates us with all his(her,your) disease and his(her,your) corruption.The Quechua Nations, Aymaras, Guarani and Mapuche, we have to join our voice and our destination(destiny) in form solidary(jointly) and international autochthonous brotherhood; since(as,like) of working inside it for the support of our families, directed also the great goal and ineluctable of recovering our territory fairly and LIBERATE. What does mean this at the time? It(he,she) means that from US AND FOR US, to develop the reactivation of our social base, the auto promotes education of the ideal ones of our liberation and since(as) of preparing the labor I design political STUDENT OF AMERICAN INDIANS. As the first task, this means to do also an effort of consolidation of constructive criteria of our line of social and cultural INDENTIDAD with goals to work in favour of our liberation etno national of the Tawantinsuyu.It is necessary to deal that we live in a painful period of the foreign opprobrium; our Quechua Nations, Aymaras, Guarani and Mapuche, during centuries of European domination, has supported the bitter perversion of the history, the monotheistic imposition of the pagan, heretical religion and íconista with his(her,your) simbología of I Crucify in the high of his(her,your) inquiring "christianity". The western colonialism and the imperialism of shift, they know that in an epoch anyone, we are going to rebel to return our nations, as well as they have made it Israel's Shomer Judíos in 1948. This has to be carried out when the whole world is at the edge of an explosion of social belligerancy, probably when there raises a revolution that generates a social cataclysm (as the case of Bolivia and Mapuche of Chile, etc) then one will present an opportunity in which the born well Tawantinsuyanos we get up ready to unarise for our liberation etno national.Finally, in our millenium Tawantinsuyu they approach white hot times of fight and in this stage of the time the men and women, the most determined have to work joined, you are alert and disciplined. The education must be orientated for this motive of insurgencia and liberation. This task has to develop for brilliant and educated minds. When the grand moment comes, they could be they those who will be prepared to take the control of the terms of reference project of the THUNDER INKA 2032.To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue, 6 May 2008 15:27:05 +0000Subject: Re: [aymara] potaje quechua bajo tierra para mi tocayoI'm sorry Matt. I'm leraning a few of aimara language.Waldir Tuni--- El mar, 6/5/08, mattcoler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:De: mattcoler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Asunto: [aymara] Re: potaje quechua bajo tierra para mi tocayoPara: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: martes, 6 mayo, 2008 5:07Yes, I heard this word too "huajja". Does anyone have an idea of what the literal meaning of this term is? I'd be interested in knowing that. Thanks!--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, waldir <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote:>> La huatia (quechua) o huajja (aimara), es una, ya la describieron en la lista; otra es el phasi, se envuelve algunos tipos de carne condimentada (especialmente pescado o carne de crías) en manojos de paja y se entierra en un horno construido con terrones de unos 10 cm de diámetro en promedio; casi parecido a la huatia (tradición vista en Nuñoa, decian que procede de Orurillo, un antiquísimo pueblito muy cerca de la Carabaya que conozco).> > Existe en el centro del Perú otro plato de cocción bajo tierra, se llama Pachamanca (la traducción de wikypedia es una barbaridad en el Quechua que yo entiendo, en verdad ateniéndome a lo que conozco esta palabra no tiene mucho sentido) arriesgandome a lanzar una estupidez, la traducción vendría a ser: "olla-magna" (en realidad, lo magnánimo tiene más idea de sacro, por eso el poco sentido). Dicen que suelen enterrar bajo piedras y terrones incandescentes hasta un carnero, papas, maíz y otros alimentos de facil cocción. > > Waldir Tuni> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _______ > Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente.>______________________________________________ Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente. __________________________________________________________MSN Video. http://video.msn.com/?mkt=es-es[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _________________________________________________________________ Descarga ya gratis y vive la experiencia Windows Live. http://www.descubrewindowslive.com/latam/index.html [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
