mariense is also what they call someone who comes from the Island of santa
Maria
Terceira- Terceirence
S.Miguel- Micaelense
Santa Maria - Mariense
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 9:44 PM, nancy jean baptiste <
fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Margaret,
>
> Every time someone posts something like this I learn something new! It's
> nice to now be able to differentiate between a "sailor" and a "fisherman".
>
> These ancestors that Joao brought forth are my ancestors also back at the
> 11th generation and down......I guess that makes us some kind of cousins
> since I see lots of my ancestors in this chart...... I'll bet several others
> on the list are connected as well!
>
> I envy the native speakers....I wish I had the "lingua"!
>
> Best regards,
> Nancy Jean
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:24:46 -0400
>
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need another set of eyes
> From: margaretvice...@gmail.com
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>
> Rosemarie, Nancy, JR, Ary, Karlushko, Joao e Eliseu;
>
> Each of your input was an example of this group's cooperation and unselfish
> assistance.
>
> Thank you so much, one and all.
>
> Margaret
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Margaret Vicente <
> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Joao,
>
> Thank you at times is inadequate to express my appreciation for your
> gesture in providing this chart. THANK you very much!
>
> Margaret.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Joao S. Lopes <josim...@yahoo.com.br>wrote:
>
> *Ahnentafel Chart for Isabel *
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> *First Generation*
>
> * *
>
> 1.* Isabel* was christened on 19 May 1732 in Calheta, ilha de São
> Jorge.
>
>
>
>
>
> * *
>
> *Second Generation*
>
> * *
>
> 2.* Sebastião Teixeira Fernandes* was born c.1694. He married Luíza
> da Silveira e Sousa on 7 Oct 1724 in Calheta, ilha de S.Jorge.
>
>
>
> 3.* Luíza da Silveira e Sousa* was born on 4 Jan 1700 in Calheta,
> ilha de S.Jorge.
>
>
>
>
>
> * *
>
> *Third Generation*
>
> * *
>
> 4.* Diogo Fernandes (Ferreira) Teixeira* was born c.1631 in Calheta,
> ilha de S.Jorge. He married Bárbara Gregório.
>
>
>
> 5.* Bárbara Gregório* was born in Calheta, ilha de S.Jorge.
>
>
>
> 6.* Manuel Pereira de Bairros* was born c.1668. He married Juliana
> da Cruz on 3 Feb 1698 in Calheta, ilha de S.Jorge.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 7.* Juliana da Cruz* was born c.1678 in Topo, ilha de São Jorge.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> * *
>
> *Fourth Generation*
>
> * *
>
> 12.* Sebastião Nunes de Sousa e BAIRROS* was born c.1640 in Calheta,
> ilha de S.Jorge. He married Maria Luís FAGUNDES on 3 Oct 1667 in Calheta,
> ilha de S.Jorge.
>
>
>
> 13.* Maria Luís FAGUNDES* was born c.1644 in Calheta, ilha de S.Jorge.
> She died on 4 Feb 1724 in Vila do Topo, ilha de S.Jorge.
>
>
>
> 14.* Mateus Silveira Borges* was born c.1648. He died before 3 Feb
> 1698. Mateus married Bárbara de Sousa.
>
>
>
> 15.* Bárbara de Sousa* died before 3 Feb 1698.
>
>
>
>
>
> * *
>
> *Fifth Generation*
>
> * *
>
> 24.* Bartolomeu Nunes de BAIRROS* was born c.1609. He married Isabel
> Vieira NETTO on 2 Feb 1639 in Calheta, ilha de S.Jorge.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 25.* Isabel Vieira NETTO* was born c.1619.
>
>
>
> 26.* Belchior Luís FAGUNDES* was born c.1617 in Calheta, ilha de
> S.Jorge. He married Joana PEREIRA on 8 Nov 1638 in Calheta, ilha de S.Jorge.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 27.* Joana PEREIRA* was born in Calheta, ilha de S.Jorge.
>
>
>
>
>
> * *
>
> *Sixth Generation*
>
> * *
>
>
>
> 50.* Diogo Fernandes PEREIRA* was born c.1574. He married Isabel
> VIEIRA.
>
>
>
> 51.* Isabel VIEIRA* was born c.1584.
>
>
>
> 52.* Domingos Gaspar Fagundes* was born c.1588 in Santiago da Ribeira
> Seca, ilha de S.Jorge. He married Apolônia Luís.
>
>
>
> 53.* Apolônia Luís* was born about 1602 in Santiago da Ribeira Seca,
> ilha de S.Jorge.
>
>
>
>
>
> * *
>
> *Seventh Generation*
>
> * *
>
> 100.* Brás FERNANDES* was born c.1544. He married Isabel PEREIRA.
>
>
>
> 101.* Isabel PEREIRA*.
>
>
>
> 102.* Miguel VIEIRA* was born c.1554. He married Suzana MANUEL.
>
>
>
> 103.* Suzana MANUEL*.
>
> 104.* Gaspar João Fagundes* was born c.1558 in Ribeira Seca, ilha de São
> Jorge. He died before 22 Feb 1637. Gaspar married (?) Apolônia Dias.
>
> * *
>
> *Eighth Generation*
>
> * *
>
> 204.* Vicente Dias VIEIRA* was born c.1510. He married Beatriz Gonçalves
> TEIXEIRA.
>
>
>
> 205.* Beatriz Gonçalves TEIXEIRA* was born c.1520.
>
>
>
> 206.* Manuel Fernandes d ÁGUEDA* married Maria GOMES.
>
>
>
> 207.* Maria GOMES*.
>
>
>
> 208.* João Dias FAGUNDES* was born about 1523. He married Isabel Afonso
> de VALENÇA.
>
>
>
> 209.* Isabel Afonso de VALENÇA* was born about 1533.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> * *
>
> *Ninth Generation*
>
> * *
>
> 408.* Álvaro Dias VIEIRA* married Iria Afonso de AZEVEDO.
>
>
>
> 409.* Iria Afonso de AZEVEDO*.
>
>
>
> 410.* André Gonçalves TEIXEIRA* was born c.1490. He married Isabel Pires
> de SOUSA.
>
>
>
> 411.* Isabel Pires de SOUSA* was born c.1500.
>
>
>
> 412.* Fernando(?) d' ÁGUEDA*.
>
>
>
> 418.* Pedro Eanes de VALENÇA* was born c.1504. He married Isabel Casado
> BARRETO.
>
>
>
> 419.* Isabel Casado BARRETO*.
>
>
>
>
>
> * *
>
> *Tenth Generation*
>
> * *
>
> 816.* Diogo Álvares VIEIRA* married Beatriz CAMACHO.
>
>
>
> 817.* Beatriz CAMACHO*.
>
>
>
> 820.* Jeronimo Gonçalves Teixeira do SOUTOMAIOR* was born c.1460. He
> married Luzia DIAS.
>
>
>
> 821.* Luzia DIAS*.
>
>
>
> 822.* Pedro Luís de Sousa do BRASIL* was born c.1470. He married
> Catarina Eanes PIRES.
>
>
>
> 823.* Catarina Eanes PIRES*.
>
>
>
> 838.* Afonso CASADO* married Maria Eanes de MEIRELES.
>
>
>
> 839.* Maria Eanes de MEIRELES*.
>
>
>
>
>
> * *
>
> *Eleventh Generation*
>
> * *
>
> 1640.* Bartolomeu da CUNHA* married Catarina TEIXEIRA.
>
>
>
> 1641.* Catarina TEIXEIRA*.
>
>
>
> 1644.* Fernão Luís de SOUSA* married Margarida LEONARDES.
>
>
>
> 1645.* Margarida LEONARDES*.
>
> ------------------------------
> *De:* Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com>
> *Para:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Enviadas:* Domingo, 11 de Abril de 2010 14:58:25
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need another set of eyes
>
> Hi All,
>
> Thank you so much for the very elucidating emails.
>
> Here's the full record as requested for Izabel, where this word shows up
> and 2 others of his children for comparison.
>
> Thank you so much every*one.*
> *
> *
> *
>
> margaret.
> *
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Karlushko <bremen...@yahoo.com.br>wrote:
>
> Dear Ary,
> I kindly desagree with you, that letter T, was the way they would write at
> that time
> you can even compare the other words written with T and you will understand
> better.
> You will notice that there isnt Marianse as a profession at that time, if I
> am not mistaken,
> and if there is, I apologize for being wrong
>
> My best regards,
>
> *Karlushko - Itajai/SC - New York/USA*
> *Pesquisando:*
> *Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, A**çores,
> Espanha*
> *Agueda, Aguiar, Andr**é**, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil,
> Bulc**ão**, Cardoso, Correia, Costa, **Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes,
> Ferreira, Figueiro, Gaspar, Gato, *
> *Gomes Gon**ç**alves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, **Lemos, Macedo, Machado,
> Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto,
> **Nogueira,
> Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos,
> Silva, Silveira, Simão, **Sodr**é**, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano,
> Bertemes, Reinert, Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse,*
> *Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus.*
>
>
> --- Em *sáb, 10/4/10, aryasan...@uol.com.br <aryasan...@uol.com.br>*escreveu:
>
>
> De: aryasan...@uol.com.br <aryasan...@uol.com.br>
> Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need another set of eyes
> Para: azores@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Azores@googlegroups.com
> Data: Sábado, 10 de Abril de 2010, 16:47
>
>
>
> Hi Margaret,
>
> This is my first message after a couple years of absence from the list!...
>
> Your attachment seems, even to a Brazilian, as : "marianse".......
> it would be a kind of occupation.....
>
> As for the meaning of that (which I do not know...) it could be
> a "sea worker" ("mar" means "sea") or maybe even a fisherman
> (pescador)... But, in any event a man tied to the sea.
>
> That is the best understanding I can take from it and share with you.
>
> It is not a name!
>
> However you didn´t share the year of that record.... That would be
> interesting to know.
>
> Ary Santos
> Sao Paulo-Brazil.
>
>
>
> Em 10/04/2010 15:54, *Margaret Vicente < margaretvice...@gmail.com >*escreveu:
> Hello Group,
> Could someone please take a look at the word after Sebastiam Teyxeira and
> let me know what that means? He is my 6th GGfather on my paternal side.
> I think I know what it might mean but I don't wish to draw any conclusions
> without some of your expert advice.
> Thank you.
> Margaret Vicente
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