Sam ,
If your grandfather was an American citizen, then a US State Dept record might be found at Ancestry. I can't find the database right now , but think it was in the Immigration section My great grandfather died in Lisbon in 1925 while on a trip to the Azores and Europe. I found sixteen pages of documents relating to it from the State Dept, US Consul, the Calfornia senator, and family attorneys in Oakland. It seems the Portuguese government didn't want to have it proved he was a US citizen so they could keep his money. I have a copy of the passport he filed for this trip with his naturalization papers attached. They wouldn't release his death certificate to the US Consul, so the US State Dept couldn't release his Citizenship papers. It was a stand off and the Portuguese government won. It was a lot of money, as he had sold his house, and was starting a year long European tour. Eric Edgar On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Sam Koester <sam...@surewest.net> wrote: > Yes, life was so different for our ancestors. Hard to imagine what it > was really like for them. My granddad went back to the Azores for a visit > and died there. I have no when that happened or what he died from. Would > love to know for sure what type of mine he worked at but; guess I never > will… > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *nancy jean baptiste > *Sent:* Friday, January 28, 2011 2:11 PM > *To:* azores group > > *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found > work > > > > Sam, > > Your link is interesting.....it mentions so many nationalities working in > the mines...no Portuguese even mentioned. > I can only imagine the levels of toxicity in a cinnebar mine! I wonder what > the life expectancy of the miners was at the time. > > Nancy Jean > > ------------------------------ > > From: sam...@surewest.net > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:43:15 -0700 > > Eric and Mary, In case you are interested, I found this information that > might have something to do with my granddad’s mining work….. > > > > http://www.historysanjose.org/neighborhoods/newalmaden/index.html > > > > Sam in Maz > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *eric edgar > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:36 AM > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found > work > > > > Sam, > > > > Over the hills from Milpitas to me means following Calaveras Road east into > the Diablo Range south of Livermore, This has long been a mining district. > Coal was mined at Tesla and Corral Hollow, Magnesite at the Red Mountain > district farther south. Magnesite is used in steel and rubber production. > > > > It could have also meant the New Almaden quicksilver mines south of San > Jose. Mercurey Sulfide (Cinnabar) has been mined here since 1845. > > > > Eric Edgar > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Sam Koester <sam...@surewest.net> wrote: > > I don't think this is too off subject....My father told me his dad used to > walk "over the hill" to the mines. At this point in time they lived in > either Milpitas (San Jose, CA area). I think, from the back of my mind, > that it was a sulfur mine. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks, > Sam in Maz > > > -----Original Message----- > From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of > Mary Bordi > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:59 PM > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work > > Regarding Brokers and Jobbers-- > > I got an broadsheet published by Murray and Ready, SF California in > August 1905 that advertised (their words not mine) "White male help of > all kinds furnished free of charge". It was issued four times daily > and I imagine posted various places for people to see and sent to > outlying areas, perhaps. All sorts of jobs were listed by category, > such as waiters, blacksmiths, cooks, laborers, ranch hands, Saw mills, > boys, married help etc. > > Something that might have appealed to our Azorean ancestors might be: > > Man run gang plow s. Joaquin Co. $1.25 day bd > 4 Teamsters 2 horses Solano Co $1.50 fare > Hay baler JM press 50c fare 14ctn > Boy milk 3 cows and work on ranch 50c fare > Milker 24-28 cows run hand separator feed etc. Merced Co fare 4.25 > Farmer and wife 5 people to cook for $45 fd > > There were also city jobs and railroad jobs. > > Another broadsheet, undated, was a "Special list of corporations, > syndicates, trusts and banking corporations jobs" (all labor, not > office) and had this ad in Spanish, German, Greek, French, Italian and > Portuguese: "Do you want secure and steady work? We need 100 > Portuguese in 5 states and 2 territories, including all counties in > California. If you want to work see Murray & Ready." At the bottom of > each ad it said "In 1902 we found jobs for 45,000 men". > > Since we were on the subject I thought this might interest some folks. > > Mary Bordi > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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