No Donna the record clearly states he was born on 7 Jan and baptized on 11
Jan.

I will be in NH on Jun 1, can't wait for the family party.

Rick.

Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX
Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 


-----Original Message-----
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Donna Moody
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:09 PM
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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Different wording on Baptism record

Hey Rick,

Could it have been a still-born birth?

Donna

Quoting Richard  Francis Pimentel <rfrancispimen...@comcast.net>:

> Manoel,
>
> I was thinking about that this afternoon. A priest can do sacraments 
> to a person that has just died. The belief is that although the body 
> has died the soul lingers for a period of time. There is a very fine 
> line that they can do this so perhaps the child was in distress and 
> they got to the church just as he died and the priest baptized him. In 
> the writing of the record the priest did not write " Felho legitimo" 
> because the child was already dead (obviously no descendants) and 
> would not inherit anything upon death of his father so the legal form was
not required.
>
> This record is the first one I have seen this way.
>
>
> Rick
>
> Richard Francis Pimentel
> Spring, TX
> Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Manoel Cesar
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 4:27 PM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Different wording on Baptism 
> record
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> I think is 'morto', 'dead' in english. Another word in portuguese for 
> 'defunto', 'falecido'.
>
> It seems that the priest used two forms to write the letter 't' .
> That´s why I couldn´t see the letter 't' in 'mortem'.
>
> The child was baptized just after his death.
>
> Manoel
>
>
>
> 2011/5/10 Richard  Francis Pimentel <rfrancispimen...@comcast.net>:
>> Hi Manoel,
>>
>> I have seen in margin notes the word "morro" used could this be a 
>> variation of that word? Usually a priest would write "defunto" after 
>> the name of the person that was dead. I guess I will have to search 
>> the obitos to see if the father had died.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> Richard Francis Pimentel
>> Spring, TX
>> Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Manoel Cesar
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:32 AM
>> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Different wording on Baptism 
>> record
>>
>> Though I'm not quite sure, it seems to me that it is 'post mortem', 
>> 'after death' in Latin.
>> My doubt is that I can´t see the letter 't' in the word 'mortem'.
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>
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