That would be cool. My mother is in Portland, OR and has dementia. However, I think I might be able to swing that. Thanks. Diane
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote: > Diane, > > If your goal is to concentrate only on your mother's mother's mother's > line, then yes, mtDNA will work perfectly for that. > > If you want to pick up your mother's mother's mother's father though, you'd > need Family Finder. > > If your mom is alive though, you'd want her to take the test (you can get > one generation more since she is a generation older). > > Cheri Mello > Family Tree DNA volunteer admin > Azores DNA project > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Diane Lavely <allevacon...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> So Cheri, If I'm female and I've never done this before, and I know that >> my mother's mother's mother and father both came from the Azores, I should >> order the mtDNA tp start with??? Diane >> >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> In case anyone missed my post about Family Finder and how it works (and >>> my analogy to spaghetti) here it is: >>> >>> About 10 years ago, the only DNA that could be used for genealogy was the >>> >>> Y-DNA or the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA). A little over a year ago, >>> autosomal DNA (Family Tree DNA calls it the Family Finder test) came into >>> >>> the picture. So now there are 3 types of DNA tests for genealogy. >>> >>> I'll try this analogy (hope it works). Your DNA is like a box of >>> spaghetti. Have you ever opened a box of standard spaghetti to find a >>> stray >>> piece of the flatter noodle one (fettuccine or linguine)? Or maybe a >>> random >>> macaroni snuck in there. >>> >>> The box of spaghetti represents the 22 pairs of your autosomal DNA. >>> There >>> is only one other pair - the 23rd pair which are the sex chromosomes >>> (where >>> the Y makes a man a man). You can pretend that's the fettuccine or >>> linguine >>> that snuck into the box. And you can pretend that the macaroni is the >>> mitochondrial DNA. >>> >>> You can look at that lost piece of fettuccine or linguine and know >>> EXACTLY >>> where it came from. It looks different than the regular spaghetti. >>> That's >>> like the Y-chromosome which men have. We know EXACTLY where a man got >>> his Y >>> from: his father, who got it from his father who got it from his father. >>> >>> It's the top of your pedigree chart. Since I'm not a man, I made my dad >>> test his Y-chromosome. So I got George to Manuel to Jose to Vitorino to >>> Antonio de Mello, etc. You get the picture. So when my dad gets a >>> match, >>> I'll know which line it is on. >>> >>> On the other hand, we can pretend that the piece of macaroni that found >>> its >>> way into the spaghetti box is the mtDNA. Both men and women inherit that >>> >>> and we know exactly how that's inherited: the mother's mother's mother's >>> >>> line or the bottom of the pedigree chart. The mtDNA is usually better >>> used >>> for anthropology type research more than genealogy, but we've had a >>> couple >>> of mtDNA matches in the Azores project. >>> >>> But the rest of that box is just spaghetti. They all look the same. >>> Suppose you went to the store and bought your favorite brand, Rozoni (I >>> have >>> no idea how well known some of these brands are, so bear with me). As >>> you >>> start to cook for this dinner party, you realize you need more spaghetti. >>> >>> So you send your significant other to the store and the end result is >>> Barilla brand. It's all spaghetti, so you throw it in the pot and cook >>> it >>> up. And none of your guests know that you used two boxes, each a >>> different >>> brand. >>> >>> Autosomal DNA (Family Finder) is spaghetti from Rozoni, Barilla, De >>> Cecco, >>> Prince, etc. Unless you are some kind of spaghetti connoisseur, you >>> can't >>> tell the difference. You inherit half of your DNA from your mom and half >>> >>> from your dad. Each one of your parents got half from their parents. >>> But >>> it's not labelled. And it actually recombines (Rozoni breaks off and >>> fuses >>> together with Barilla). OK, I know that spaghetti doesn't do that in >>> real >>> life, but hopefully, it will help you get the picture. >>> >>> So when my dad and Shirley Allegre matched with their Family Finder >>> results >>> (the spaghetti or autosomal DNA), we didn't know where. It's just a >>> tangle >>> of spaghetti. Since my dad and Shirley both have Antonio de Mello in >>> their >>> tree, we knew some of the matching was coming from there. Marge Perry >>> also >>> matches both my dad and Shirley. It was more distant and we don't know >>> exactly how, but we have an idea it has something to do with Vila Franca. >>> >>> More research will tell. >>> >>> So, if you are an existing FTDNA customer, you can upgrade to more Y-DNA >>> markers (the fettuccine or linguine) which is the father's father's >>> father's >>> line. You can also purchase the Family Finder (spaghetti) at the reduced >>> >>> rate (you'll match people, but it'll take some work with your tree to >>> figure >>> it out). >>> >>> The only 2 tests on sale for NEW customers would be the Y-12 marker with >>> Family Finder (for men) or the mtDNA basic with Family Finder (for men or >>> >>> women). Or you can wait and see what they put on sale in December. >>> >>> If you are an existing customer, the announcement read that the sale ends >>> at >>> a certain time. I'd rather not wait until the very last minute to see if >>> IT >>> programmed the computers to stop the sale at the right time. So I state >>> that the sale ends 1 minute earlier than it really does. It ends at >>> 11:59pm >>> CDT, today, June 21st. I would think that if IT has their act together >>> that >>> the sale won't go through if you wait until 12 midnight on June 22nd >>> (only 1 >>> minute later). >>> >>> Hope this clarifies a little bit! >>> Cheri Mello & Rick Pimentel >>> Family DNA Co-Admins >>> Azores DNA Project >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >>> when they arrive. >>> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >>> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions >> when they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> > > > > -- > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, > Achada > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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