Nancy, I got his from the http://www.microsofttranslator.com/Default.aspx?mkt=es-us I am sure the translation is literal but....
Além disso, quais são as palavras portuguesas nos registros de "escravo" e "prostituta"? Greg Ancestors from Faial, Manuel Garcia Dias ... Furtado ... SIlva From: nancy jean baptiste Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:10 AM To: azores group Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Norte Grande - impressions Hi Rick, E1b1b2a is my fathers YDNA. While it is from Africa it originated in the Berber tribes of Algeria and Morocco around 7000 years ago. So North Africa and Berber/Moor. Very different features from South Africa but also held as slaves by the Portuguese. My Dad's paternal line is from the Topo area of Sao Jorge and I've always wondered if his DNA is the result of raids by Algerian pirates who I've read were active raiders in the Azores. However, I've had difficulty finding information regarding the years of the raids and areas they attacked although our neighbors on Pico said that they built homes up in Terra Alta rather than down in Baia do Canto because it was safer from the pirate raids in days of old. I do have a few ancestors from Norte Grande but they're on my Mom's side. Also, what are the portuguese words in the records for "slave" and "prostitute"? Thanks, Nancy Jean -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Norte Grande - impressions Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:49:25 -0600 In answer your question on DNA. The Y-DNA test will only provide data for the direct male line that is your father, his father, his Grandfather and so on. So The Y-DNA will only show a small spectrum of a person’s DNA. If the Y-DNA Halplogroup falls into certain groups (E1b1b or A or B. and to some extent J1 & J2) that would indicate an African origin but that could be anthropological (I am talking Fred Flintstone). The same would apply to MtDNA. My dad’s MtDNA is L2 which is African origin. This could be anthropological (Wilma Flintstone) in nature also. But MtDNA only shows a small spectrum which is the maternal line. A better picture of recent African origin would be the family finder test. This will show results which go back 5-6 generations and will show a combination of all ancestors in that range. Rick Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project Spring, Texas Researching Sao Miguel Azores, Riberinha, Riberia Grande, Bretanha, Achada Grande, Ponta Delgada. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Bordi Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 11:22 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Norte Grande - impressions On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:16 AM, joao ventura wrote: The number of slaves is not significant, but there are two brothers, former slaves, that became free and one of them has descendants until today. If any of those on the list who know about DNA are reading this-- Would this show up in the Y DNA test of his descendants? I have only been able to trace my maternal mtDNA in Norte Grande but I was curious if it would show up for those who were able to test the male line. There are two independent communities: Norte Grande and Santo António. It is like two different villages, who share a common church. The richer people live in Norte Grande, while the poor live in Santo António. People from one place don't usually marry someone from the other. That was certainly true of my family. I had come to that conclusion, so it's interesting that it's really true. I know some people who came from Santo Antonio and was joking with them that we might be cousins. But probably not... Mary -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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