RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas

[pico]

Amy,

When deciding who will take the Family Finder test, always pick the oldest living relative first. Their DNA is more pure and you'll get more connections.

Just one generation down will really make a difference. My father always has many more matches to other Portuguese than I do.

Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico Genealogist
916-550-1618

www.dholmes.com

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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for information on
Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
From: "Richard Francis Pimentel" <rfrancispimen...@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, January 10, 2013 10:44 pm
To: <azores@googlegroups.com>

I would agree with Doug that a family finder test would prove helpful. I would further suggest that Family Tree DNA is the best testing company for the Family Finder as it has the largest data base. I do not know the count but most of us that have tested have found matches on the island they are from. This would help narrow the search to an island and perhaps even a village.

 

Also I have a Simas ancestor from Achada Grande in Sao Miguel

 

Rick

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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of p...@dholmes.com
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:43 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas

 

Funny thing is that my own ancestor was named Antonio Leal de Simas, born in Sao Roque do Pico.

But I checked my Simas database and still couldn't find any logical connection to the one Amy is looking for. My ancestor has no lost sibling like that, nor did his parents.

 

But JR is right. The best chance (in the Azores) is Pico.

Simas is also found on Faial, rarely on Flores, here and there on Terceira and Sao Jorge, lots on Sao Miguel (where all Azorean Simas are ultimately from), several on Graciosa, there are many possibilities.

Even our esteemed leader, Cheri Mello has Simas ancestry! :-)

 

All these possibilities added to the fact naming traditions can have a grandchild carry on a different name than the parents, there is no telling.

And don't forget there are lots of Simas foundlings with little chance of finding their origins.

 

Like someone, Cheri?, said, getting a Family Finder DNA test, plus as much digging in records from Australia to find the village and names of parents is really the best way to tackle this difficult problem.

 

Remember, I don't think there is a single larger database on Simas than mine, and if I can't find it, you're in trouble.

So keep digging.

 

Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico Genealogist
916-550-1618

www.dholmes.com

 

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for information on Francisco
De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
From: JR <jro...@rogers.com>
Date: Thu, January 10, 2013 4:23 pm
To: azores@googlegroups.com

If I was you, I would start looking in Pico and Sao Jorge, at and before 1842 for anyone named Simas with Silva or Leal. These records are on-line, so you might find something.

 

JR

On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 3:43:25 AM UTC-5, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote:

Hi All,

I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be
able to help me.

My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is
unknown at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or
Azores region (this is second hand information from a relative). I
think he was born approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could
be as late as 1836 but this doesn't match age on documents I have) and
left Portugal on a whaling ship in which he jumped off in Australia. I
think I have narrowed down the whaling ship to Jeannette which sailed
from New Bedford in 1842 and he was listed as a boy (what does this
mean?). He lived in Australia for a while then sailed on the Oliver
Lang to New Zealand where I believed he changed his name from Jose
Francisco de Simas to either Jose Leal de Simas or Jose Silva de
Simas. I believe the Silva to be his mothers maiden name.

I am seeking any information about his life but particularly
information about his younger days. I dont have names for his parents
or an exact location of his birth but would love to find this
information out.

Anyone out there that can help me :

Thanks
Amy

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