Amy, The University of Minho in Portugal and now the university of Porto seems to have joined with them has a wonderful project where they are mapping ( I don't know the correct term) the ancestry of the Azores. So, go to http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt this will take you to the main website, Choose ilha do Pico (Pico Island) , then Madalena. This will take you into a database that will include persons born in Candelaria. type in Jose Simas Leal. there are so many persons with the same names in the Azores you always also need further info so go down the list of Jose Leal Simas until you find one born in 1907 this is my realitive. If you send me your full email address I will send you the relationship chart. I will try to help you all I can as others helped me when I joined this site. I haven't talked to Kevin Malloy (the historian i mentioned several emails ago) for a few years but if necessary i think I can find him if needed. but the Y- DNA and family finder is the best option at the moment. regards, Christine gandc...@bigpond.com
On Sunday, January 13, 2013 1:22:37 PM UTC+10, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: > Thanks for your help. Sorry where do I find the database you refer too. I > am very new to this. > > Thank you > Amy > On Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:18:24 AM UTC+13, Chris Macedo wrote: > >> >> Amy, >> The Office of Births, Deaths and Marriges in NZ in the town or nearest >> city to where your gfather died will have the official records and you can >> ask them for a copy. I think they were about $25 per record when I applied >> for a copy of my birth cert..I was born in Wellinton so applied there. Ring >> your nearest office and ask what the procedure is. Your gfathers place >> of bith should be recorded on his death certificate because his place of >> birth should have been notifed of his death, that was and I think, is still >> the procedure. >> My grrandfather arrived in Dunedin somewhere around 1860-65 and his death >> cert. shows that he was born in Candelaria, Pico, Azores in 1840. I have a >> copy of that death cert. and a certified translation of his birth >> certificate, translated in Dunedin, and obtained from the NZ archives by >> my cousin. Maybe you should visit the titles office sometimes you will >> learn much more that way. My ggrandfather also used variations on his name, >> sometimes he was Jose de Andrade de Macedo and sometimes just known as Jose >> Macedo. >> Also have a look in the Madalena database of the Uminho. there is a Jose >> Leal Simas b 1907, he is related to my family and his father came from >> Lajes so you could look there. This family was also related to my family in >> Lajes so just maybe our ancestors knew each other. >> It is now 4 15 a.m. here In Brisbane so I wish you good luck and yes >> most certainly have the DNA done. >> >> regards, >> Christine Macedo >> >> >> On Saturday, January 12, 2013 7:30:55 PM UTC+10, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: >> >>> Thank you for everyone's input. I think I may have my dad tested with >>> the Family finder DNA. It is very confusing and not alot is know about this >>> side of the family and what is know is just here say. Where is the best >>> place to search for birth records? I have quite a few names which he has >>> used. He seems to have arrived in NZ as Jose de Simas or Jose Francisco de >>> Simas and then he has used Jose Leal De Simas and also Jose Silva De Simas >>> ( this is not in any official documents that I have come across, just here >>> say again). He passed away in NZ as Jose Leal De Simas. Also it is quite >>> possible he was born in Porto in Northern Portugal and moved to somewhere >>> in the Azores. I have also heard that his parent own a vineyard. Is there >>> anywhere in particular that I could search for records for Porto? >>> >>> Thanks everyone. I really appreciate all the help. >>> >>> Amy >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:43:25 PM UTC+13, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be >>>> able to help me. >>>> >>>> My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is >>>> unknown at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or >>>> Azores region (this is second hand information from a relative). I >>>> think he was born approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could >>>> be as late as 1836 but this doesn't match age on documents I have) and >>>> left Portugal on a whaling ship in which he jumped off in Australia. I >>>> think I have narrowed down the whaling ship to Jeannette which sailed >>>> from New Bedford in 1842 and he was listed as a boy (what does this >>>> mean?). He lived in Australia for a while then sailed on the Oliver >>>> Lang to New Zealand where I believed he changed his name from Jose >>>> Francisco de Simas to either Jose Leal de Simas or Jose Silva de >>>> Simas. I believe the Silva to be his mothers maiden name. >>>> >>>> I am seeking any information about his life but particularly >>>> information about his younger days. I dont have names for his parents >>>> or an exact location of his birth but would love to find this >>>> information out. >>>> >>>> Anyone out there that can help me : >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Amy >>>> >>> -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
