This explains what I just found in Graciosa last week. The land ownership document upon my grandfather's death (1936) showed my father, in "North America", and his youngest brother, in Graciosa, as the 2 heirs. The middle brother, who had emigrated to California 30 years earlier, was not listed. I assumed he had died but found it strange that he was not even listed as a son, deceased. But now that I think about it, there were other sons who died as babies and young children and there was no mention of them either. Thanks for the info, Doug. Lorraine
On Monday, May 20, 2013 11:32:24 AM UTC-4, Doug Holmes wrote: > > If it is a death in Portugal, it means that's how many were living at the > time of his death. > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] legitimate vs. illegitimate > From: Eddie Machado <avided...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > Date: Mon, May 20, 2013 4:31 am > To: azo...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > > Thanks for the info Doug. This is a case of at least two survived. One was > born in 1861 then the following two were born 1872 & 1876. The last two > were buried together with their wives in CA. I know one went by his middle > name. Now on their father's death record it said he had 8 kids would that > include all kids or just living? > > > > On Monday, May 20, 2013 12:01:19 AM UTC-4, Doug Holmes wrote: >> >> Hi Eddie, >> >> Most would tell you that the last Manuel is the only one who survived, if >> any did. >> But there are some unusual cases where two with the same first name did >> survive. I know there was someone recently on this list who mentioned it in >> their family. >> What happens in that case they used different middle and last names. >> >> As for legitimate or not, when they had not yet married, the child will >> be "filho natural" and if said to be legitimate, the priest probably just >> didn't pay close attention when he recorded it. >> Usually there will be a notation in the margin that says this child was >> legitimized by the subsequent marriage of his parents and will give you the >> date and location of their marriage. >> >> Doug da Rocha Holmes >> Sacramento, California >> Pico & Terceira Genealogist >> 916-550-1618 >> www.dholmes.com >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] legitimate vs. illegitimate >> From: Eddie Machado <avided...@gmail.com> >> Date: Sun, May 19, 2013 5:11 pm >> To: azo...@googlegroups.com >> >> Ok so I found a record for my 2x great grandparents having a child April >> 1861. They were married a few months later in October of 1861. The child is >> marked as legitimate. I thought because they were not married yet the child >> would be illegitimate. Anyone know why? >> >> Also as a side note how often did families have kids with the same name. >> In this case it was 3 kids named Manoel. >> >> Thanks, >> Eddie >> -- >> >> -- > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
