Doug:  I have another child for Joao Aguiar as follows:

Maria de Aguiar
married to:  Rodrigo Alvares, from Sao Sebastiao. Terceira, Azores
CHILD
Joao Rodrigues de Aguiar
married to Barbara Gonsalves de Paiva
daughter of Gonsalo Anes X Maria de Paiva.
I don't have any marriage info on either couple.

Shirley in CA

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  From: p...@dholmes.com 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com ; John Raposo 
  Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 12:11 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] João de Aguiar of Quatro Ribeiras, Terceira


  Hi John,


  Does the Ornelas Mendes volume for Terceira mention another child or two of 
João de Aguiar?
  I think he might have had many, based on surname usage of some families at 
that time in the records.


  I remember reading about Padre Maldonado's ancestry being unknown and that it 
was suspected his family had come from somewhere other than Praia or Angra. So 
I found it interesting that he himself mentioned some family links. But that 
might be something from a book by Ferreira Drummond which is now approaching 
200 years old and maybe someone discovered his family in recent times.


  I'll have to look for Maldonado's comments in Fénix Angrense.. Thank's for 
referencing that!


  I wonder if there is any mention of the Aguiar origins and if maybe he came 
over from Sao Miguel or Madeira, or straight from the continent.


  I'm also sending this message to the list, since there are several people 
interested. But it might never appear there, since it seems all my messages end 
up in the que as spam, according to Cheri.



  Obrigado,



  Doug da Rocha Holmes
  Sacramento, California
  Pico & Terceira Genealogist
  916-550-1618
  www.dholmes.com



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    Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] HELP, HELP, HELP !
    From: John Raposo <marra...@yahoo.com>
    Date: Thu, July 25, 2013 6:38 am
    To: "azores@googlegroups.com" <azores@googlegroups.com>


    Shirley, Doug, et al.,

    Here is what I have in my data base. The research comes from Genealogias da 
Ilha Terceira. I hope this helps.

    John Miranda Raposo


    Ahnentafel Chart for Pedro Ferreira de Aguiar
    First Generation
          1. Pedro Ferreira de Aguiar was born in Vila Nova, Terceira, Açores. 
He died on 16 Apr 1686 in Vila Nova, Terceira, Açores. He was buried in Vila 
Nova, Terceira, Açores. 
    Pedro married Iria de Avila  daughter of Mateus Nunes Avila and Agada, 
Machado Vieira on 28 May 1657 in Vila Nova, Terceira, Açores. Iria was born in 
Vila Nova, Terceira, Açores. 
    Second Generation
          2. Antonio Ferreira de Aguiar was born in Vila Nova. He died before 
May 1657 in Vila Nova. He married Beatriz Alvares on 3 Feb 1613 in Praia.[1] 
          3. Beatriz Alvares died before 28 May 1657. 
    Third Generation
          4. Antão Ferreira de Aguiar married Beatriz Gonçalves.[2] 
          5. Beatriz Gonçalves .[3]

          6. André Álvares was born in living in Valfarto. He married Maria 
Pestana. 
          7. Maria Pestana was born in living in Valfarto. 
    Fourth Generation
          8. João Ferreira de Aguiar was born in living in Quatro Ribeiras. He 
married Catarina Fernandes. 
          9. Catarina Fernandes  was born in Agualva.

    Fifth Generation
          16.      João de Aguiar was born in living in Quatro Ribeiras. He 
died died after 12 Mar 1548.[1] 


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    [1] The first of this name in Terceira, he was given lands in Quatro 
Ribeiras from Cruzeiro to Ribeira da Ingreja. Boletim do Insituto Histórico da 
Ilha Terceira, 1943, vol 1, p.25, cited in Genealogias da Ilha Terceira, 
(António Ornelas mendes and Jorge Forjaz, Dislivro Histórico, Lisbon: 2007) 
Vol. 1, p. 79, Aguiar §1.


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    [1] Slave owner.
    [2] "whom I knew whon hw was very old..." says Father Moldonado in Fenix 
Angrense.

    [3] "my grandmother's cousin" says Father Maldonado in Fénix Angrense.




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