I am so sorry – Joao Ventura is correct. I had logged in and was able to view the Portugal records, then logged out and tried again, and could get in, but I suspect the program kept me logged in and so gave me access to the images even after I thought I’d logged out. When I tried this evening, I went in first without logging in, and it didn’t let me see the images until I logged in as a church member – it didn’t let me see them when I logged in as a ‘civilian’, either. Please be aware that this is not a church-policy, it is a parameter imposed by whichever entity allowed filming of the records.
I spoke again with the director of my local Family History Center, and she is going to call Salt Lake City tomorrow and see what the situation is with these records. I will let you know when she gets back to me. Eileen Leite From: Lee Lewis [mailto:lrleele...@att.net] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 10:30 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: [AZORES-Genealogy) Family History Centers & Familysearch.org Joao Ventura is correct about searches on familysearch.org, an LDS Church website. You may sign in whether member or non-member. This site, previously new.farmilysearch.org has been created using the Nfs databases, but is family tree oriented instead of being family group sheet oriented. There have been a number of other changes as well, and additions are being added to familysearch.org at the rate of millions a week. While the 'Mormons' as they are commonly called, are know for their family history (since the 1840s) records and recordkeeping, and while the site contains hundreds of millions of names, the best thing for family historians is that it is free and open to the public. _____ From: João Ventura <j...@venturas.org> To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 7:31 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: [AZORES-Genealogy) Family History Centers & Familysearch.org On Thursday, August 8, 2013 2:44:11 PM UTC+2, Eileen Leite wrote: FamilySearch.org <http://familysearch.org/> is a free online site that has millions of records, including US Censuses. They are gradually adding films from continental Portugal, some indexed, some just as digitalized, browsable, films. Someone posted this week that the Portugal information on FamilySearch is only accessible to members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. That is not the case. I spoke with my local FHC Director about that. Logging in as a member of the LDS church gives one fullest access to the site, especially to the personal family trees. You can also log in without being a member of that church: click LOG IN and then “Create An Account”. But going in without logging in still gives you broad access. Hi, Eileen, sorry to reiterate.. Most of the Portuguese images are off-limits >>> from the comfort of their homes <<< to non-members of the LDS church OR supporting organizations. My steps to reproduce: 1. Login to the FamilySearch.org site. 2. Select Search > Continental Europe > Portugal > (... ) Faro (...) > Browse through 138.057 images > Faro > Albufeira > Guia > Nossa Senhora da Visitação > Batismos 1845-1865 3. Error "Image not available" (confirming that I am still logged in). You can see in https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Portugal,_Diocese_of_Faro_Catholic_Ch urch_Records_(FamilySearch_Historical_Records) : "Whenever possible, FamilySearch makes images available for all users. However, ultimate rights to view images on our website are granted by the record custodians. The Portugal, Faro, Catholic Church Records collection is available to the Family History Library, FamilySearch Centers, and to members of the supporting organization, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The images can be viewed at a FamilySearch Center near you." So, if you want to travel physically to an FHC to access an Internet site, yes you'll have access even without being a member. I'm so glad that I don't have to go to the nearest Google Data Center to access Google.. What a pain that would be. There is an FHC in the town I live. It stays open for about 1 hour every Tuesday after my work day finishes. Imagine how useful the internet would be if you could only access Google 1 hour per week. 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