Dear Eric Thank you very much I will try and get to Rookwood on weekend and let you know what details I can find on the gravestone. The "De Fraga" ( or "De Frayer" as used by my great grandfather in his name during his life and also used as part of one of his daughter's names) does seem significant for the family. Will get back to you as soon as I know more. I very much appreciate your help.
regards Jane Kelly On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 3:31:22 AM UTC+11, luiznoia wrote: > Jane, > > If you can get a birthdate from the cemetery, then maybe I can locate his > baptism record in Flores. He would be recorded there as Antonio Lourenco, > and I would guess the de Fraga comes from the mother's family. The parents > may be Manuel Lourenco and Maria ( de Conceicao, de Jesus, de Gloria, etc) > with de Fraga parents. > > These name combinations point toward the north of the island. > > Eric Edgar > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:00 AM, jane Kelly > <jane....@tafe.nsw.edu.au<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Thank you - Anthony married Agnes Eliza McGirty in Sydney NSW in 1874 >> aged 22 years. The other information I have comes from his naturalisation >> certificate on 9 August 1888. >> he died 4 April 1905 in Balmain , Sydney aged 54 years, I have the >> marriage certificate 16.2.1874 his parents are listed as Manuel Lorenzo ( >> Sailor) and Mary - rights of roman catholic church. Also have his death >> certificate but have not been able to find anything about his parents or >> life before Australia >> >> Only references to birth that I have are: >> - his marriage certificate -16.2.1874 lists him as a sailor aged 23 years >> - his naturalisation certificate - 9 august 1888 - lists him arriving in >> Australia in 1861, and advising he is 34 years old, says he is a native of >> Flores, West Island, Azores >> - his first son was named Antoni George on his birth certificate ( >> 3.11.1877 in Balmain Sydney) and the father is named as Antoni George >> Larence - Mariner , aged 27 from Portugal >> >> I do not have a birth date yet - but will shortly visit his grave in >> Rookwood cemetery and that might help with a date of birth >> >> >> Jane, >>> >>> I've worked with 2 other people who had ancestors from Flores, Azores >>> who immigrated to Australia or New Zealand. I'm familiar with the databases >>> available for Australian passenger and shipping lists. >>> I've checked a number of databases, but none showed a "Triton" arrival >>> for 1861. That particular year has a gap in the records of ships arriving >>> at New South Wales. >>> >>> The son's name with the de Frayer may give a clue, likely originally >>> being: de Fraga. Who did Anthony Lorenzo marry ? >>> >>> Can you give some more information; his birthdate, marriage information >>> ? With birth information he may be found in the parish baptism records of >>> Flores at the CCA - azores government archives site >>> >>> >>> Eric Edgar >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:28 PM, jane Kelly <jane....@tafe.nsw.edu.au>wrote: >>> >>>> I am researching my family history and want to identify Antony or >>>> Anthony Lorenzo who arrived in Australia on "Triton" in 1861 at age of 9 >>>> years - this information is from his naturalisation papers in Australia >>>> and >>>> he list his parents as and Manuel and Maria and his birth place as Flores, >>>> West Island, Azores , Azores on these papers. He would have been born >>>> about >>>> 1854. I am hoping someone else may also be related and give me some >>>> further >>>> information. 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