OK, that makes sense, thank you. I forgot about the possibility of a baby being 
abandoned at the church.

Fred

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> On Feb 5, 2014, at 2:38 PM, "rcapodc" <rcap...@redshift.com> wrote:
> 
> Fred, What it means is that she was probably abandoned as a baby. Left on the 
> Church doorstep or the "Roda" the lazy-susan  wheel at the church or where 
> the Nuns lived.
> 
> Rosemarie
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Fred Estrella
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 12:05 PM
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Cc: <azores@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism record
> 
> Thanks for all the help. Seems like every record I come across is a bit 
> different. This one is a real head scratcher...why would Maria not know her 
> mother?  Not knowing the father is more sensible but, I guess, her mother 
> might have died when she very young and she was raised by other family?
> 
> Fred
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2014, at 12:36 PM, "rcapodc" <rcap...@redshift.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Fred, the reason you can't read any parent names is because she is a "pai 
>> nao sabidos" parents unknown ( it does say pay/pai which I would take it to 
>> mean father unknown but there is no mother listed either). She was, however, 
>> baptised in Sao Sebastiao in Ponta Delgado.
>> 
>> Rosemarie
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Fred Estrella
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 10:54 AM
>> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism record
>> 
>> I just found the marriage record of the parents of Antonio, Ignacio de 
>> Arruda and Maria do Carmo. I can make out Ignacio's parents, Thome Rodrigues 
>> (deceased) and Maria de Arruda, but I can't make out Maria do Carmo's 
>> parents.  The record starts on bottom of left side and finishes on top on 
>> right. Here's the link: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1752-1792/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1752-1792_item1/P28.html
>> 
>> Again, any help would be appreciated.
>> Fred
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, "Richard Francis Pimentel" 
>>> <rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Fred,
>>> 
>>> The grand parents are not listed in this record. It is written prior to when
>>> they did add them to records. The names Joao Vieira and Barbara Francisca
>>> are the God parents. You have the dates and names of the parents correct. I
>>> would add that the father was baptized in Capelas and the mother was
>>> baptized in Sao Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada.
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> Richard Francis Pimentel
>>> Spring, TX
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Fred Estrella
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 9:46 AM
>>> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism record
>>> 
>>> I found a Baptism record for my 4th ggfather from Capelas, Sao Miquel. I can
>>> make out his paternal grandparents but cannot make out the maternal side.
>>> Here's what I can determine:
>>> Antonio
>>> born: 9 Mar 1775
>>> bapt: 19 Mar 1775
>>> f. Ignacio de Arruda
>>> m. Maria do Carmo
>>> pgf. Joao Vieira
>>> pgm. Barbara Francisca
>>> mgf. ?
>>> mgm. ?
>>> 
>>> The record is on the left side of page at the bottom. here's the link:
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1773-1
>>> 788/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1773-1788_item1/P21.html
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>> Fred
>>> 
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