Thanks Manoel,
Information was coming so fast last week on this couple I forgot what you had said. This makes them about 10 years older than I had estimated and the span of children somewhere around 30+ years. This is the marriage that was sent last week http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P4.html top right. I think I even commented about it. Did Canto give the names of the parents? I can only close my eyes and imagine with this record. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mances Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Andre de Carvalho & Beatriz Ferreira Ginetes 1635-17?? Rick, As I said in my previous post the marriage of André Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira took place on 19 march 1648. The record is on line in the CCA and is in the Canto's index as well. They had their first child baptized (feito os exorcismos) on 20 feb 1649. Here's the link, the first one on the right side: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1588-1677_item1/P114.html Manoel Cesar Furtado Em terça-feira, 11 de fevereiro de 2014 23h00min34s UTC-2, Richard Francis Pimentel escreveu: This discussion of this couple was started under another thread but I thought it is worth continuing in a new thread. I have been trying to reconcile this couple Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira who are my 7th great grandparents with Carlos Machado and the records I have found. Machado lists Andre Carvalho Benevedes b. about 1637 married to Beatriz Ferreira b. about 1637 Married about 1680. He also lists two daughters Marianna Carvalho b. about 1657 and Beatriz Ferreira b about 1677. Obvious these dates are incorrect. Machado also has Marianna Carvalho b. 1657 marrying to Manuel Rodrigues 28 Mar 1677 in Ginetes. I found this record for Marianna Carvalho and Manuel Rodrigues: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P27.html The date is 28 Mar 1677 Manuel Rodrigues son of Pedro Rodrigues and Isabel Moreira (dec) with Marianna Carvalha daughter of Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira. He also has Beatriz Ferreira marrying Pedro de Sousa 30 Oct 1707 in Ginetes. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P62.html The date is 30 Oct 1704 Pedro de Sousa son of Francisco Gonsalves and Catherina de Sousa wed Beatriz Ferreria daughter of Andre Carvalho de Benevedes and Beatriz Ferreira. Machado had 30 Oct 1707. At this point I will say that the Machado I am using is from the disk that was transcribed by Rev Viverios. The true accuracy needs to be determined by looking at the original manuscript. Needless to say it is useful in searches. I have also found this record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P75.html The date is 6 Nov 1705 Joam Carvalho son of Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira weds Lucia Martins the daughter of Joao Martins and Aguela Rodrigues. This marriage was not in Machado. At this point I have Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira with 3 children Marianna, Joam and Beatriz. All three married I know Joao had descendants. The birth range of the three children seems to be from 1657 to 1683 a span of 26 years. With Marianna being born around 1657 and Beatriz being born around 1683 (based on marriages). Because of the range I would make a safe assumption that Andre de Carvalho and Beatriz Ferreira were married around 1657 placing their births around 1635. Care needs to be taken when sorting out these records in the book 1646-1713 for Sao Sebastiao in Ginetes as the names Carvalho, Rodrigues, Sousa are numerous and easy to confuse. What I have above appears correct according to the records . Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. 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