Yes the second example does look like Miz for Martins. It also has dotted I. However, the first sample looks more like Roiz to me, with accent over z. In the first sample, you will see the name Maria clearly showing a well defined M. In the second sample, it is clearly an Miz with less ambiguity. This has always been problem even for the great genealogists. What to do? Do your best and make notation. If you know the name to be Martins and not Roiz, then you can just make a notation of your findings. If the Martin name is carried forward without any Roiz, then you have your answer, If both, you have a problem requiring more work.
JR On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 12:16:09 AM UTC-5, linda wrote: > > > Thanks so much for your reply JR. I can see it that way too. I will > check the other records... > > ...hmm, and I'm back... here's a record written two years later by the > same priest, Lourenco Gomes: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-DOZERIBEIRAS-C-1694-1737/TER-AH-DOZERIBEIRAS-C-1694-1737_item1/P103.html > > In this case, the groom (again named for his father) is listed in the > Marriage Index as Manuel Martins. To my eye, the abbreviation used by the > priest again looks like Miz, accented. I think it is the same abbreviation > as in the first record I linked to. > > There are several examples of the abbreviation in this second record. If > you wouldn't mind having a look at them, I'd be much obliged. > > thanks again, > > Linda > > > On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 8:29:16 PM UTC-8, JR wrote: >> >> I would say Roiz because there is short symbol over the Roiz (the z), and >> that is the usual short form for Rodrigues. However, if you spot Mtz with >> same accent you may have a case. I would still go with Roiz because that is >> what it looks like to me, especially the z. >> >> JR >> >> On Sunday, December 13, 2015 at 11:01:09 PM UTC-5, linda wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Group, >>> >>> I would like your opinions on this record, please: >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-DOZERIBEIRAS-C-1694-1737/TER-AH-DOZERIBEIRAS-C-1694-1737_item1/P89.html >>> >>> I think the transcriber of the names on this page for the Terceira >>> Marriage Index made an error. According to the index, the marriage should >>> be for Ignacio Rodrigues. But, I believe it says the groom (and his >>> father) to be Ignacio Martins. The priest's M's (as in the M in "Madre >>> Igregia" second to bottom line) could easily be mistaken for R's, hence the >>> error. >>> >>> I'd very much appreciate more experienced eyes than mine to double check. >>> >>> many thanks, >>> >>> Linda >>> >> -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
