Yes JR, is what I'm doing, because there is no death of any child of this 
couple in Maya, or the death of Barbara da Ponte and there is no reliable death 
of Manoel da Costa also.


Another thing; I noticed is that with regard to female names, certain parishes 
prefer one to another . For example , Emilia. Where I found many Emilias ? In 
Rosto do Cão, where he sought my ancestress Emilia.


Barbara and Agada seems to be a preference of Ribeira Seca. I tell you if 
successful.


Hugs!

Cesar Pimentel

cesarpimentel....@hotmail.com


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De: JR <jmro...@gmail.com>
Enviado: domingo, 10 de julho de 2016 18:33
Para: Azores Genealogy
Cc: cesarpimentel....@hotmail.com
Assunto: Re: Manoel da Costa (Carreiro) e Bárbara da Ponte

The Pontes of Maia are most likely related to the Pontes of Ribeira Grande and 
may even originate there. The Ponte Vidals of Maia almost certainly originate 
in Ribeira Grande and go back to pre-1600. But this is difficult to prove 
definitively.

When it come to end of line ancestors (end of records), we all face the same 
situation. We cannot go back any further. There are many examples where it 
appears a couple have only one surviving child. Because we may find one 
marriage. But my experience is that they usually had many children but only one 
survived and married, or we have no further information to link other people. 
Your only available choice is to look in Ribeira Grande or Ribeira Seca where 
there are pre-1660 baptisms. It is possible they lived in said places and 
eventually settled in Maia. In said villages, you will see a some references to 
Ribeirinha, a small villa just outside the main village. But there are no 
separate records for the older period of pre-1700, so again you have to look in 
Ribeira Grande or Ribeira Seca records.

JR



On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 8:07:25 PM UTC-4, Cesar Pimentel wrote:

Hello guys,


Thus it is that down the couple Manoel da Costa (Carreiro) and Barbara da Ponte.


The difficulty in moving beyond this couple is that I have wanted for his life 
in Maia, and the earliest record of birth available there is 1665.


Well, here comes my doubts.


I also found the death of Manoel da Costa, Miller, occurred on 10/02/1698 in 
Maia, and that death is said that Manoel was buried in the grave of his father, 
Gaspar Lourensso (written with two "s" there ).


But how to make sure that this Manoel da Costa is even Manoel da Costa father 
of Manoel da Costa Carreiro and would have been married to Barbara da Costa?


I noticed a funny thing.


I looked ALL marriages registered in Maia, I began searching for a possible 
second marriage of Manoel da Costa, to see if, seeking in deaths, could find a 
death some Manoel someone widower, I would not have noticed, but what really 
got me It caught my attention is that in addition to her son's wedding, Manoel 
da Costa Carreiro with Izabel da Costa and then Maria Ferreira, there is no 
other wedding any other son of Manuel and Barbara.


It is not strange that? In those years an only child.


Reviewing Manoel marriage certificate Carreiro da Costa with Izabel da Costa, 
it is said that all were Maia, but in fact, the wording is ambiguous, may or 
may not be all but a few.


Is it not possible, in my view, that seek birth more children couple Manuel and 
Barbara Maia because the records do not make possible, but weddings, ah, that 
if there were, it would appear.


For now, my conclusion is that Manuel and Barbara couple did not live in Maia, 
but in some other place, and that would explain even not find even Barbara's 
death record , which will not found it.


It's more or less what I wanted to share with you to start our conversation.


A hug and be happy to know it.


Cesar Pimentel

cesarpim...@hotmail.com

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