I am sorry if implied anything. I just can't figure out which lines you are 
following. I guess you are following many lines. I was wondering what 
happened to the Vieira Lourenco line you were tracking? Is that from 
Balbina de Jesus?

JR



On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 11:59:24 AM UTC-4, doreencaetano wrote:
>
> I’m unclear about your comment. Are you inquiring about the lineage or the 
> research technique? 
>
> Research technique:
>
> I have a very complete tree for myself which was completely developed by 
> Joao Ventura. It provides me with a very deep tree but not a wide tree. 
> With that frame work I have further developed my tree through DNA work. 
> Through DNA testing of several family members I have tried to isolate the 
> various lines. Some of these relatives are related to me in several ways so 
> it makes Family Finder analysis a little tricky. In that case I have tried 
> test some other relatives with just those lines. I manage several DNA 
> profiles as well as work with several other relatives on the various 
> connections. I have noted these various lines within my database. This 
> helps develop the width of my tree. There is one relative that is going 
> through my lines and Joao’s research gathering the CCA links and connecting 
> them to the tree. I work very hard at connecting the various relatives 
> especially if there is DNA to indicate a connection. I also try to note 
> siblings of my direct relatives which gives width to my tree.
>
> The depth of my direct tree was developed by Joao Ventura and through the 
> work of various family members, DNA testing and finding the connections I 
> have been able to develop my tree’s width (family groups/siblings/ 2nd 
> marriages etc). The more I do this the easier it is to find the connections 
> to DNA matches. 
>
> So now to the present work. I had several relatives which had incomplete 
> trees in other words the part of the tree that is not connected to me 
> directly was blank. I had several DNA matches that might account for these 
> lines but I had not tree to work with to find these connections. Recently I 
> have been working on two relatives’ trees from Raminho and Altares that tie 
> into my family through my Berbereia and Ormonde lines. I’ve been working 
> through marriage index, birth index, birth records, death records, marriage 
> records to develop these trees. I look through index and other leads to 
> find records. I note them in the database hoping they link back to Joao 
> research (which they usually do but in this case not has much). I want at 
> least two records that confirm the connection. Sometimes that means just 
> reading through the CCA site page by page in certain year ranges looking 
> for names that connect. I do this to develop width in the family groups so 
> maybe a different member of the family will provide a new lead.
>
> Lineage:
>
> If you are asking about the lineage then I need to said that since I’m 
> just developing these trees it will take some time to provide verification 
> of the work on the tree. I will utilize the DNA testing as I can and once 
> connections are made it will help provide the verification of lineage that 
> this present work will require. I will search for more birth, marriage and 
> death records to confirm the connections. I want at least two records but 
> the more the better I feel about the connection and the accuracy of the 
> tree. You are looking at the first step in a long journey  for these two 
> trees. 
>
> Hope this reply provides you with an answer to your inquiry, if not just 
> let me know.
>
> Doreen
>
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> *From: *JR <javascript:>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 20, 2017 9:26 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy <javascript:>
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hepl reading Altares Marriage record 
> ofAntaoMartins Coelho and Joanna Nunes
>
>  
>
> I'm having great difficulty understanding how arrived at this generation. 
>
>  
>
> JR
>
> On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 9:23:11 PM UTC-4, linda wrote:
>
> :)
>
> On Jun 20, 2017 6:21 PM, <doreen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks so much.
>
>  
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> *From: *linda
> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 20, 2017 6:00 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Hepl reading Altares Marriage record of 
> AntaoMartins Coelho and Joanna Nunes
>
>  
>
> on my phone, so please forgive the brevity:
>
>  
>
> Antam/Antao Martins Coelho
>
> f: Diogo Fernandes, deceased
>
> m: Catharina Coelha/o
>
>  
>
> Joanna Nunes
>
> f: Francisco Dias Coelho
>
> m: Maria Carvalha/o
>
>  
>
> "all parishioners of this parish" which implies the parents but isn't 
> definitive. All the witnesses are also "parishioners of this parish".
>
>  
>
> It doesn't look like you missed anything-- at least as far as I can see
>
>  
>
> :)
>
>  
>
> Linda
>
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