Hi JR Maria Eugenia de Andrade was my great grandmother and the few dates I have match. Thank you so much for this.Noelia
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message --------From: JR <jmro...@gmail.com> Date: 3/19/18 6:41 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dead end Here is what I think your line should be. Barring new unknown evidence, this is the closest match I could find in the records. I crossed checked all this with the CITCEM site. They are exactly the same, except they I added a generation. I will send the source files to you email address along with the other generations. Is Maria Eugenia de Andrade your ancestor? And if so, who is she married to and the date. Thats should help reinforce these findings, or possibly cause a reassessment of the findings. JR Ancestors of Maria Eugenia de Andrade Generation No. 1 1. Maria Eugenia de Andrade, born 26 Apr 1834 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo. She was the daughter of 2. Francisco Pereira de Faria and 3. Inacia Eugenia da Silveira. Generation No. 2 2. Francisco Pereira de Faria, born 19 Aug 1812 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo. He was the son of 4. Francisco Garcia de Faria and 5. Rosa Inacia or Inacia Rosa. He married 3. Inacia Eugenia da Silveira 22 Jul 1833 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo. 3. Inacia Eugenia da Silveira, born 08 Sep 1804 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo. She was the daughter of 6. Francisco Silveira de Medeiros and 7. Ana Rosa da Silveira. Children of Francisco Pereira de Faria and Inacia Silveira are: 1 i. Maria Eugenia de Andrade, born 26 Apr 1834 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo. Generation No. 3 4. Francisco Garcia de Faria, born 21 Apr 1757 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo. He was the son of Matias Garcia and Ana de Faria. He married 5. Rosa Inacia or Inacia Rosa 15 Oct 1781 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo. 5. Rosa Inacia or Inacia Rosa, born Abt. 1761 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo; died Bef. 13 Jan 1805 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo. She was the daughter of Antonio Dutra Leao and Catarina Dutra Bulcao. Children of Francisco Garcia de Faria and Rosa are: 2 iv. Francisco Pereira de Faria, born 19 Aug 1812 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo; married Inacia Eugenia da Silveira 22 Jul 1833 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo. 6. Francisco Silveira de Medeiros, born 26 Feb 1758 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo. He was the son of Lourenco de Medeiros and Rosa Silveira de Faria. He married 7. Ana Rosa da Silveira 08 Nov 1790 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo. 7. Ana Rosa da Silveira, born 06 Jan 1771 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo. She was the daughter of Francisco Dutra de Andrade and Felipa Rosa de Sao Jose. Children of Francisco Silveira de Medeiros and Ana Silveira are: 3 ii. Inacia Eugenia da Silveira, born 08 Sep 1804 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo; married Francisco Pereira de Faria 22 Jul 1833 in Santissimo Trindade, Capelo. On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 6:14:01 PM UTC-4, Olivia wrote:Thank you JR. On Mon, Mar 19, 2018, 12:11 AM JR <jmr...@gmail.com> wrote: After looking at the many records of Capelo, Faial, I have a much greater respect for the work that was done to compile the database. Many of the names in certain historical periods are so interchangeable that it is difficult not to make mistakes. I have discovered for instance that a name followed by question mark, indicates the finding is not certain and the family to which a baptism is ascribed is in doubt. So the best choice was made followed by the question mark. Another example is for the parents of Francisco Pereira de Faria, which are Francisco Pereira de Faria and Inacia Rosa. Should be easy, right? But the record (s) in the database show more than four options, none exact, and maybe more. It appears the authors decided not to choose which marriage is the correct one, because of the similar names in the same time period. It is quite a minefield, in my opinion. If the dispensations are available, this is the best option IMO. The July 22- 1833 marriage indicates the couple are related in the fourth degree. JR On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-4, JR wrote:It seems I made an error. I apologize. I was looking in a different village- that is Cedros. The marriage for Francisco Pereira Faria and Ignacia Eugenia da Silveira, in Capelo, July 22- 1833, is correct. See the link. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P76.html He is filho de Francisco Pereira de Faria and Ignacia Roza; She is filha de Francisco Silveira de Medeiros and Anna Roza, naturais de Santissimo da Trindade, lugar de Capelo, where both were baptised. JR On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 10:12:55 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:Rosemarie, you are not kidding. the record on the uminho site is for Jose Pereira Faria cc Ana Clara Escobar, not a Francisco Pereira Faria. And the date is Oct 5 - 1833, not July 22- 1833. He re is the link: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1829-1847/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1829-1847_item1/P28.html Olivia I may have some info for you from Faial that I collected when I was helping someone. I would like to share it with you if it helps you. However, at this point I am quite confused on what you are looking for. Thought it was Pereira Garcia, now I learn it is Pereira Faria. Can you post what you have, or send it to me so I can see if there is a match. I will send you what I have if there is a match. JR On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 6:28:51 PM UTC-4, rcapodc wrote:Olivia, the site for Faial is www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt and you can do the searching yourself. The only thing is that you need to verify whatever you get off of the site by going to the government site with the actual documents @ www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/igIf you have questions about either site, just email me and I can walk you through it all. Rosemarie rcapodc@gmail.comResearching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Olivia <nlolly...@gmail.com> wrote: Yes it is Faria not Garia. My autocorrect kicked in. I'm excited because people seem to have information for me -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/-UA4uGOG9Ik/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. 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