Sam,

I noticed the same thing in the Sao Jorge records....there were "alduterina's", 
the "pai nao sabido", pai occulto, and pai incognito.....they all felt 
different but when I asked I was told they were all the same....but, I don't 
believe that anymore....

Nancy Jean
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From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <azores@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 12:27 PM
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Leonor;  In this case, no father was mentioned but; the husband’s name was 
listed as well as the fact that he had been away for over 300 days so, I think 
it truly means, “adulterer”, if I’m spelling that correctly.



Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



From: Leonor Bertoni<mailto:leonor.bert...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 10:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Avo incognito, Avo occulto; difference?



Hi Sam,

I have wondered about all these terms as well. I have found that when the 
priest says "adulterina" he usually also mentions a father. Someone once told 
me that it meant that the baby was conceived before marriage or the couple were 
not married at all.



On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 12:12, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
<azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Happy Friday morning everyone;



As I’ve been extracting baptisms/births, I have noticed that the same priest 
during the same time period will sometimes use Avo incognito and other times 
use Avo occult and on occasion simply state that it is “natural  de” and the 
mother’s name with no mention at all of the father.  On only one occasion, so 
far, has it been stated that the mother is “adulterina” (may not have spelled 
that correctly)



Does anyone know why it is recorded in these various ways.  I understand that 
if you are single you are not an “adulterine” but; other than that, what are 
the differences?



Thanks for educating me,.



Sam (Mazatlán, MX)





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