That is great! I have never seen that XML approach before. We'll give it a try 
and see if that helps us and others.

Thanks,

Ian Forrester | BBC World Service [New Media Software Engineer]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Metcalfe
> Sent: 27 June 2005 14:01
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Subject: RE: [backstage] Change of URL's for Language news feeds
> 
> 
> When moving XML feeds, you can go down either the httpd route 
> of serving 301's, or you can use this XML approach:
> 
> Replace the contents of the old feed with the following static XML:
> 
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
> <redirect>
>  
> <newLocation>http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/index.php/feed/</newLocation>
> </redirect>'
> 
> Where http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/index.php/feed/ is the url 
> of the new feed.  You've got Kosso's mate Dave W to thank for 
> this "standard" I believe 
> (http://radio.userland.com/stories/storyReader$19964).  Most 
> newsreaders will also update their feed url information when 
> served this XML, in the same way you expect them to when 
> served a "301 permanent".
> 
> 
> I am currently using the XML option on my blog as stupidly 
> the old feed url was in the form /foo/index.xml?blogid=4 
> (with an argument in the url).  301'ing preserved the 
> arguments, which therefore pointed to the url 
> /blog/index.php/feed/?blogid=4, which bombs out WordPress :(
> 
> 
> Ben Metcalfe :: backstage.bbc.co.uk
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Heritage
> > Sent: 27 June 2005 13:19
> > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > Subject: RE: [backstage] Change of URL's for Language news feeds
> > 
> > 
> > Kevin,
> > 
> > That's not quite true. Firefox doesn't permanently update the
> > link in the current version (and this currently represents 
> > the vast majority of the requests made for our RSS). Joel 
> > Chippindale has checked the bug list and it is in there, but 
> > we're not sure if that's likely to go into the next version. 
> > Will have to wait and see. 
> > 
> > In the mean time, we're serving roughly 50% more requests
> > than we should because of the extra 301 responses.
> > 
> > Also of interest to some might be the way in which Internet
> > Explorer handles redirects for xml.
> > 
> > When we (news.bbc.co.uk) did the switch from rdf to xml, we
> > also change the domain from news.bbc.co.uk to 
> > newsrss.bbc.co.uk. This was a big no-no for Internet 
> > Explorer, as there is a security hole (details here: 
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-047.ms
> > px), so rather than fix the bug, they just don't allow 
> > redirects to files ending ".xml".
> > 
> > Ah well, never mind.
> > 
> > Ross.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Hinde
> > Sent: 27 June 2005 13:03
> > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > Subject: RE: [backstage] Change of URL's for Language news feeds
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Ian,
> > 
> > have you thought of putting a 301 redirect at the old
> > location for a couple of weeks?
> > 
> > We did that when we renamed ours and it works well - most
> > aggregators seem to handle the 301 correctly and permanently 
> > update with the new location...
> > 
> > Kevin
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian 
> Forrester
> > > Sent: 27 June 2005 12:34
> > > To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> > > Subject: [backstage] Change of URL's for Language news feeds
> > > 
> > > Hi All,
> > > 
> > > I just wanted to announce the change of URL for Language 
> News feeds.
> > > 
> > > The page http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/data/LanguageNews?v=tz1
> > > points to *.rdf named files which have changed to *.xml 
> files now. 
> > > (This page will be changed soon).
> > > 
> > > So if you are using or thinking of using Language feeds in your
> > > prototypes or services remember to change the .rdf to .xml 
> > to receive
> > > no disruptions now or in the future.
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advanced...
> > > 
> > > Ian Forrester | BBC World Service [New Media Software 
> Engineer] and
> > > Cubicgarden.com
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