On 11/02/07, Michael Sparks wrote:
> On Saturday 10 February 2007 22:28, Tim Thornton wrote:
> 
> > Your machine will do what you tell it to. It's just that there are
> > secrets you can't access.
> 
> Regarding the point above, that's the issue here. Whilst you're happy
with
> owning a computer that will keep secrets from you, I'm not. 
> 
> That's a minor detail though - kinda you say potato I saw potato -
we're
> unlikely to agree.

Much like attitudes to IP ownership, I suspect! :) 

> (We both agree they keep their secrets from the user,
> from your perspective I still retain control, from mine I don't.)

Unfortunately, for it to provide security to the level that it does,
those private keys must be unavailable outside the TPM. I do understand
where you're coming from, but you can think of it like any hardware
resource; it has certain properties. I can write to a CD-R, but I can't
erase that data (in software) once written. Or at a slightly different
level, my file system prevents me from modifying files I don't have
permission to access.

> Thanks for the references and explanation - I'll read up on the
references, 
> you never know when the positive uses of the technology will be handy.

A genuine pleasure to have helped. 

Cheers,
Tim

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