This is NOT to replace HTTP delivery in order to enforce DRM in the flash > player.
It is! :-) No, it isn't. But your off-key one-note tune has already taken up too much of my time. Your failure to acknowledge the social problem of DRM - the BBC acknowledges DRM but whines "we can't help it, its not our fault" - and your lack of shame at being called on promoting it marks you out as non-serious in my opinion. Ok, you've convinced me that... ...you can't admit you made a mistake. And that debate to you is everyone saying "yes, you know what Dave? You're absolutely right" whenever you speak. If I don't appear to believe that DRM is a cause of society's problems as you would appear to wish me to, then it's fine that you don't think I'm serious, sometimes I don't take myself seriously either. Perhaps there's a lesson there? You can reply to this if you like, but from this moment on, I have prioritsed reading your mail behind hacking my arm off with a rusty saw. Good luck with the revolution. S. On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 01/03/2008, simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is NOT to replace HTTP delivery in order to enforce DRM in the > flash > > player. > > It is! :-) > > > As far as the flash player goes, this FMS 3 requirement is only > > about streaming MP4 container (h264/aac) into the flash player as > detailed > > in the bullet points of this article: > > > http://www.kaourantin.net/2007/08/what-just-happened-to-video-on-web_20.html > > The blog post of an Adobe employee is unlikely to make explicit the > way the DRM in FMS is going to play out. Adobe does not want to raise > awareness of its DRM capabilities. > > > You will still be able to use progressive download for MP4 and flv video > > files into flash. In fact, stuff I've made does it every day. > > Today you can't use progressive download for the iPlayer Flash video, > but the DRM is not _yet_ (afaik) turned on for iPlayer. Will it be > turned on? > > > Of course, Adobe may turn off HTTP support by releasing a version of the > > Flash Player that requires a handshake with their proprietary server > before > > it delivers video, but I'm sure they realise that would be incredibly > stupid > > as the ubiquity of the flash player is in a large part down to the low > > barrier it has on delivering video content. > > I agree that Adobe is unlikely to remove the HTTP functionality, but > that doesn't mean that the BBC and other FMS users will make use of > that functionality - the BBC already doesn't - and Adobe are already > providing them with DRM features that they are not yet using. > > > Adobe Media player article is, clearly, correct since it is written by > > people who know about the product they're talking about. > > So beef about that all you like. > > The phrase, > > > > protected download-and-play > > sounds like classic DRM to me. > > > > Adobe's rich history of document protection technology > > AKA: Adobe's on going attempts at DRM > > > > Adobe Media Player plans to offer > > > content publishers a range of protection options, including streaming > > > encryption, content integrity protection and identity-based > > > protection. > > "Streaming encryption" is about "replacing HTTP delivery in order to > enforce DRM in the flash player." > > > But don't spread misinformation that supports your insistence on > focussing > > on what flash player isn't, rather than what flash player is. > > In fact, I think you can replace "flash player" in the above sentence > with > > almost any tech for some of the conversations on this list. > > > > I make stuff people use. I don't sit around waiting for other folks to > make > > stuff so I can tell them why they're wrong to make it that way and this > kind > > of grandstanding drives me nuts > > Your failure to acknowledge the social problem of DRM - the BBC > acknowledges DRM but whines "we can't help it, its not our fault" - > and your lack of shame at being called on promoting it marks you out > as non-serious in my opinion. > > -- > Regards, > Dave > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial list archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ >
