- Hum... *only* sound and video? All that content is a pretty big
   deal.
   - Cross-browser client-side storage? Sure, you can do it in JS,
   sometimes, using one of many APIs, but flash's shared object could make a
   good fallback (I've not tried this though).
   - Don't most JS uploaders will use a (hidden? 1px by 1px?) flash file
   in the page to do the heavy lifting (again, I've not tried this)? Seems
   Flickr's does.
   - Pretty much all display advertising on the web is done in Flash
   (where rather a lot of money is spent, apparently)

J

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:23 PM, simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Once you remove games, I believe there are only 3 things Flash player has
> that cannot be recreated with html + css + javascript:
>
> 1. binary socket (Audio, Video)
> 2.  XML socket
> 3. no page refresh file upload with user feedback events (% loaded etc)
>
> I'm hoping someone can remove item 3 for me with a link to some fancy JS
> uploader
>
> S.
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Playing whack-a-mole with corporate and device use cases that the
> > > legal or technological implications of Flash being proprietary break
> > > misses the forest for the trees. These are all just instances of the
> > > freedom of software users being compromised.
> > >
> > > That said, on other lists I've seen people argue that Gnash is
> > > counter-productive precisely because it supports something that isn't
> > > an open standard. This would be a reasonable argument if there was an
> > > open standard to support, but there really isn't (SVG+JavaScript or
> > > DHTML+AJAX are not substitutes). So I agree that if the BBC could
> > > provide such a standard that would be really positive.
> > The BBC have already announced that they are working on a standard with
> > a number of other companies.
> > http://www.p2p-next.org/
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