2008/11/4 Aleem B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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> > I keep thinking of using a bit of "onclick=..." with an AJAX routine to
> do the testing and counting.  It is a simple matter of returning a true
> value to allow the link to activate.  I guess if it broken you could return
> false...
>
> FWIW, adding an onclick is not the preferred way of doing this. It's better
> to attach events to anchors during document.onload event. If anchors need to
> be filtered, dom/css classes can be used.


Sounds interesting, care to share a little more about this method?



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> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
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>> 2008/11/4 Gavin Pearce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>>  "I might be being a bit blond here, but why even the need to have
>>> "rel=nofollow" at all?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is supposed to be there to stop automatic and commercial links
>>> polluting search engine rankings."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ** Sorry I meant within the BBC related links section specifically. My
>>> bad for not making it clear.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Exactly Brian, I think we are on the same page … my point is why does the
>>> BBC need to make use of JavaScript, or NoFollow tags for links to "key"
>>> sites related to the story in hand?
>>>
>> I can see a good point about using a redirector as you can use it
>>
>> a) test to see if the link is broken; and
>>
>> b) count the number of times it get used.
>>
>>
>> I keep thinking of using a bit of "onclick=..." with an AJAX routine to do
>> the testing and counting.  It is a simple matter of returning a true value
>> to allow the link to activate.  I guess if it broken you could return
>> false...
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> End-user generated content is a different matter …
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth
>>> *Sent:* 04 November 2008 10:12
>>>
>>> *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>>> *Subject:* Re: [backstage] "Greedy BBC Blocks External Links"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/11/4 Gavin Pearce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>  I might be being a bit blond here, but why even the need to have
>>> "rel=nofollow" at all?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is supposed to be there to stop automatic and commercial links
>>> polluting search engine rankings.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can understand on "user" generated content, but when it's a link to a
>>> relevant and respected website on the topic in hand, than that isn't a
>>> good or valid reason to use the "nofollow" syntax. In fact as stated
>>> already, that's a large part in how the big search engines work.
>>>
>>> Google isn't likely to start penalising the BBC site as it's no doubt on
>>> a "respected site" / "white list" somewhere else within the Google
>>> system...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But that isn't, to be fair, the issue.  The issue is that even if the BBC
>>> decides to link to an external site, if it uses either the methods
>>> described, a visiting user will get there, but a search engine will dismiss
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Incoming links are useful for SEO and to have them turned off from the
>>> BBC is a big problem.  Last time I had a link from a major BBC page to my
>>> site, my usual traffic (and ad revenue) tripled for three days.  But the
>>> link did not boost any search engine ratings.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gavin Pearce | Web Developer | TBS
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Belam
>>> Sent: 04 November 2008 09:36
>>> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>>> Subject: Re: [backstage] "Greedy BBC Blocks External Links"
>>>
>>> I don't think it is "evil", and as I've pointed out on their blog and
>>> on Sphinn, since Patrick at Blogstorm himself applies "nofollow" to
>>> all outbound links it is a little rich to be complaining that the BBC
>>> doesn't provide 'trusted' links. Interesting point about how Google
>>> can be expected to run a trusted link based algorithm in the future,
>>> but lets not forget it was the search engines that concocted
>>> "nofollow" themselves, and Google is these days notorious for
>>> penalising sites in the rankings that it 'believes' are displaying
>>> paid links that are not clearly marked as advertising. I've blogged a
>>> little about the Blogstorm post as well -
>>> http://www.currybet.net/cbet_blog/2008/11/bbc_news_clumsy_linking.php
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> martin
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