Nice to see this...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/dec/10/digital-radio-radio

2008/10/21 Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> 2008/10/21 Ant Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> Having said that, and my earlier point about low bit rates actually
>> being better for reaching the audiences they're tyring to get to, the
>> higher bit rates do exist.  If anyone in backstage would like to
>> suggest something we could do with better quality streams at low cost
>> (i.e. none!) then fire away!
>
>
>
> The UK audience's bitrate doesn't need to be the same as for other areas,
> and there are lots of different services worldwide...
>
> *BUT* my DAB rescue plan:
>
> - BBC given 'national commercial multiplex 2' on five-year loan
> - BBC doubles up all it's DAB TX sites to do this mux
> - BBC emits DAB+ version of all services -> boost audio quality for all
> services
> - Restricted national commercial bandwidth drives up DAB slot values
> - BBC promotes upgrade to DAB+ for all existing users!
> - After five years, BBC moves it's national mux to DAB+, returns com mux 2.
> - Com Mux 2 for new DAB+ services
> - Then Com Mux 1 moves to DAB+
>
> Then the BBC can promote the "true CD quality DAB+ get it now" service,
> people have five years to upgrade all their DAB sets.
>
>
>>
>>
>> a
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>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Brian Butterworth
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > 2008/10/21 Christopher Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>
>> >> This one's a late night, in-the-kitchen thought. I turned the radio on
>> >> while
>> >> I was making a cup of tea and of course, after R4 closedown the WS is
>> >> simulcast. On FM, you get a wonderful, crisp stereo feed. On DAB, the
>> WS
>> >> feed is fine when listening to the Radio 4 simulcast, 128kbps stereo,
>> but
>> >> its own dedicated slot is naff: a 64kbps mono stream. On the web, it's
>> >> even
>> >> worse - only streamed at 32kbps WMA/RA. AsianNetwork is 64kbps mono on
>> DAB
>> >> -
>> >> even 5Live has a better bitrate (80kbps mono).
>> >
>> > It is probably worth pointing out that the World Service, unlike all
>> other
>> > BBC services is paid for out of direct taxation.   Thus the service has
>> an
>> > even more limited budget than License Fee services, it is down to the
>> FCO
>> >
>> http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/about-the-fco/what-we-do/funding-programmes/public-diplomacy/world-service
>> >
>> >>
>> >> While I'm not a big Asian Network listener, I do live in Brum so take a
>> >> bit
>> >> of an interest in Asian community goings on. However, I'd quite like to
>> >> listen to the WS during the daytime, either via the web or via DAB -
>> how
>> >> come the bitrates haven't been upped for these stations on the web
>> >> streams?
>> >> They're dragging behind the other BBC radio stations' online streams.
>> Are
>> >> there any plans to ever up the bandwidth of these neglected stations,
>> >> either
>> >> on DAB, on the web or both? I'm under the impression that the maximum
>> >> bitrate for the multiplex is 1184kbps useable. According to
>> >> DigitalRadioTech
>> >> [1], the pre2002 bitrates were significantly higher (which I remember),
>> >> and
>> >> I can understand the reasons for lowering the bitrates to fit in the
>> newer
>> >> channels. The web's a different matter entirely though. What's stopping
>> >> the
>> >> Beeb from upping the bitrates for all the online streams to the same
>> >> bitrate?
>> >>
>> >> (and will the bitrates ever go above 128kbps? I'd love a 192kbps or
>> >> 256kbps
>> >> stream, particularly for... Well, all of the radio stations!)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> And also, as a final question - how come the iPlayer pages for *all* of
>> >> the
>> >> radio stations are currently reporting each one as being currently
>> >> off-air?
>> >> Have the boxes doing the encoding and streaming been taken offline for
>> >> work
>> >> overnight or something? If someone aboard the HMS Sceptre is browsing
>> the
>> >> Radio 4 iPlayer site and sees that it's currently offair, they might
>> think
>> >> Britain is under attack and launch some Tridents at the Soviets.
>> Wouldn't
>> >> *that* be an interesting one for Gordon Brown to try and explain!
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
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>> > Brian Butterworth
>> >
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>> advice,
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>> >
>>
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