I think Nevali might take umbrage at being lumped into our conspiracy
so blatantly.

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On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM, David Tomlinson
<d.tomlin...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> This has discussion continued in a modest way on the blog comments.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/10/freeview_hd_copy_protection_a.html
>
> I am sorry to say Nick is making misleading reassurances.
>
> (He is not sufficiently technical or familiar with the material, to
> understand the logical inconsistencies - this is an observation of fact, not
> a personal attack).
>
>
>
> See Nick comment No. 34.
>
> "Yes you will be able to put a HD tuner into my Open Source MythTV box and
> watch BBC HD, again if suitable tuners become available."
>
> The only reason tuners would not become available (they are currently
> available for Standard Definition), is that they will be excluded by the
> licence required to decrypt the signals.
>
> Free and Open Source Software Drivers will be excluded (excluding Myth TV)
> if there is any meaningful copy protection (unless the licence is breached).
>
> If the copy protection is to be meaningful, the BBC must break the law,
> regarding an unencrypted signal (semantics aside) and exclude FOSS from
> accessing the copy protected signals (which may only apply to Hollywood
> films, US imports, or may apply to the majority of content).
>
> See Nevali's comments, No. 35, 36, 42.
>
> Clearly Nevali, is part of the official consultation process.
>
>
>
>
>
> Issues:
>
> 1.1 Free and Open Source software is incompatible with DRM.
>
> 1.2 Reassurances to the contrary, contradict this knowledge. And undermine
> statements from the BBC.
>
> 2.1 What the BBC is proposing is in breach of the law by any reasonable
> semantics, the law is clear and does not allow for exceptions.
>
> 2.2 You may wish to proceed as if this was not true, but it is a fatal flaw
> that will destroy the agreements the BBC is entering into, and damage the
> BBC.
>
> 2.3 The BBC TRUST cannot ignore the fact that the BBC is intending to
> breaking the law. Semantics will not be sufficient to obfuscate this issue.
>
> 2.4 Several other options exist to exploit the flaw in the BBC's intentions.
> I am aware how it is possible to subvert the law, but ultimately the letter
> of the law, will be used to force the BBC to broadcast unencrypted.
>
> 3.1 We are in a transition phase, away from copyright and DRM.
>
> 3.2. The BBC appear to be insufficiently aware of the arguments against DRM
> and, dangers of the course of action they have embarked upon, to act in the
> public intrest
>
> 3.3 The BBC are not familiar with the argument against DRM which has failed
> repeatedly.
>
> 3.4. The BBC are not sufficiently aware of the arguments against
> intellectual property which has already lost the intellectual debate.
>
> 4.0 Free and Open Source software proponents have experience of a copyright,
> patent, and DRM free environment, and are therefore more ready to embrace
> the concepts, and freedoms involved.
>
> In view of the above, how can the BBC management claim to represent the
> public interest ?
>
> The BBC can choose to ignore the above, but the issues will not go away.
> And the BBC will be seen to be, not side of the public, but on the side of
> special interests on these issues.
>
> This is intention of this email to raise issues with the BBC Management of
> which Nick is one of the current spokesmen.
>
>
> Further Reading:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/speeches/stories/thompson_bpi.shtml
>
> "But that's changing. The first episode of the new Dr Who series was
> available on the unauthorised site Bit Torrent three weeks before its
> premiere on BBC ONE.
>
> And, although of course our main model in the UK is free-to-air unencrypted
> broadcast, the BBC has a duty to exploit the residual commercial value of
> the rights we invest in on behalf of the public: we do that both here and
> around the world.
>
> So we have an intense interest in effective digital rights management
> systems; in technical, legal and regulatory means to protect the property of
> rights-holders; and in increasing public awareness of the moral and economic
> consequences of the theft of intellectual property.
>
> On this last point, I believe the BBC could do considerably more than it
> does at present."
>
> Mark Thompson, BBC Director-General  Thursday 14 July 2005
>
>
>
>
> Some background on semantics in law.
>
> http://ssrn.com/abstract=831604
> http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=831604
>
> "We consider in the paper whether a pragmatics of semantic content can be a
> useful approach to legal interpretation. More extensively, since a pragmatic
> conception of meaning is a component of an inferential semantics, we
> consider whether an inferentialist approach to legal interpretation can be
> of help in treating and resolving some problems of legal interpretation. In
> sum: Is legal inferentialism a suitable conception of legal interpretation?"
>
>
> Some of the Anti-copyright argument.
>
> http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/web/la-oew-healey18feb18,0,7696645.story
>
> "In "The Fatal Conceit: The Errors of Socialism", the economist and Nobel
> Prize winner F.A. Hayek explains the difference between conventional
> property rights and copyright. While the supply of material resources is
> limited by nature, the supply of an immaterial good [is] unlimited, unless
> the government limits the supply by law?. A later Nobel Prize winner, Milton
> Friedman, describes copyright as a monopoly that decreases supply to a level
> below the optimal level. Copyright and the regulations that follow from it
> should, according to Friedman, be described primarily as a limitation of
> free speech.
>
> In essence, Sigfrid is saying that something in unlimited supply can't be
> stolen."
>
> [...]
>
> "These aren't just academic arguments. They're ammunition in a battle that's
> raging online to shape the way the public thinks about copyrights. The first
> salvo was fired by the original Napster, which defined itself as a
> file-sharing network. That won the semantic high ground by defining
> unauthorized downloading as "sharing," not "copying" or "duplicating." The
> implication was that users of these networks were merely being generous with
> something they possessed, not usurping the rights of copyright holders."
>
> The arguments about theft of service in the article are also wrong, as theft
> of service is just an extension of property rights.
>
> The BBC wishes to limit supply by encryption, and therefore restrict free
> speech, and support private monopolies.
>
>
> Must Read:
>
> A  more complete argument against copyright can be found in the book:
> http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm
> which available as a pdf from the web site.
>
>
>
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