On 8 November 2010 18:12, b...@bt <blwarbur...@btconnect.com> wrote:

> The easiest solution is just play the 30 minute edition on BBC1 then we can
> watch the HD version on BBC1 HD.
> Another solution is to have a simulcast BBC4 (BBC4 HD).
> There's plenty of bandwidth on the satellite HD transponder - enough for at
> least 2 more HD channels.
>

<rant>

Can I have a "why oh why?" moment.

The BBC transmits six live streams of TV channels.   Two are split:
BBC3/CBBC and BBC4/CBeebies.  Two are News and Parliament.

BBC3/CBBC and BBC4/CBeebies are UK-wide streams.   BBC One already has a HD
channels.

So, there's two HD slots on Freeview HD and four on satellite and cable.

Why not make BBC3/CBBC and BBC4/CBeebies HD on satellite and cable.

On Freeview HD, use the bandwidth for two of the four HD channels.  For the
other two streams either

a) Providide a low-bandwidth SD service over MPEG4 for the other two
streams;

b) Provide a no-bandwidth MHEG5 or static MPEG4 caption for the other two
streams with "retune to 2 [or 7 or 9]".

Then you can scrap the silly "HD channel".

Reasons:

1) All BBC channels in Sky "HD" listings;

2) The SD-option provide an SD-fallback when recording an overrunning
programme;

3) Better newspaper and online listing for HD content ("also in HD") rather
than unlisted BBC HD channel.

</rant>



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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Woods" <
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> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 4:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [backstage] The Sky at Night BBC1 vs BBC4 editions
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>>> [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of b...@bt
>>> Sent: 08 November 2010 14:38
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>>> Subject: [backstage] The Sky at Night BBC1 vs BBC4 editions
>>>
>>> Just a quick question.
>>>
>>> The BBC4 edition of Sky at Night is 30 minutes long but the
>>> BBC1 edition (and repeat on BBC2) is 20 minutes long.
>>> Does anyone know why ?
>>>
>>
>> I seem to remember TSAN eps have a breakaway segment on location or
>> somesuch
>> similar. Do the BBC4 repeats just have office-based stuff? (simple way
>> would
>> be to play both at once and see where they go out ;-)
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