Dan, but what's wrong in having BackupPC on the Web server as long as it's
doing the backup to a different partition, allocated only for backup?

Thank you,
Andrew

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 5:06 PM, dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> best practices says that a backup device should be independant of the
> devices it is backing up.  dont run backuppc on your webserver for
> production if you plan on backing up the webserver.  also, apache is pretty
> secure if that is what you are running, so as long as your havent broken
> that security with bad configuration I doubt you will have a security issue.
>
> really, get a dedicated machine for backups.  a dual-core system with 2GB
> of ram is pretty cheap now.  A rackmount case and powersupply from newegg is
> like $100, plus $200 for the mobo and cpu and ram, plus whatever disks you
> need.  1TB is about $110 right now so you could easily to 2 of those in
> raid1 for a total price of $520!  why waste time and effort and risk
> disaster by not doing this right?
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Andrei Stebakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> It's because my only Linux system on the network is the Web server. It's
>> not a problem to back itself up on a local hard drive.
>> The problem I see is that the whole Linux system can be under attack and
>> all the hard drives could be compromised (or even wiped out).
>> Also I am still not very comfortable running the BackupPC on the Web
>> server because it opens another security door to the outside world and may
>> expose the source code.
>> On the other hand I got a few windows systems on the network with lots of
>> disk storage and not exposed to the Net.
>> I thought they could be good candidates to carry the backup data.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:22 PM, dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> both NTFS and CIFS/SMB support hard links.  Hardlinks work across SMB on
>>> remote NTFS volumes.
>>>
>>> That being said, I highly suggest you look for other options.  This will
>>> be a slow, high CPU usage setup.
>>>
>>> Dives are cheap.  Expand the capacity of your backuppc server and save
>>> yourself a lot of headaches.
>>>
>>> I have to ask....why do so many people insist on running their backup
>>> system on some hokey setup?  Why even bother backing up the files if you are
>>> not going to back them up correctly?  It is a false sense of security
>>> because when you really need to restore data you have a good chance of
>>> something being wrong!
>>>
>>> You should really have a backup server with local storage, not network
>>> storage.
>>>
>>> drives are soo cheap now that you can build a 1.5TB mirrored storage
>>> array for $380!
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=838944-1-0-ARTICLE-0&Item=N82E16822148337
>>> 32MB cache masks I/O, a mirror doesnt need to compute parity and the bus
>>> speed of the system should be able to tollerate the writes to 2 drives
>>> without a significant penalty.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andrei Stebakov wrote:
>>>> > Hi
>>>> >
>>>> > I've installed BackupPC on my Ubuntu server, but its hard drives have
>>>> > relatively small capacity so I'd rather use my Windows machines to put
>>>> the
>>>> > backups on.
>>>> > Is it possible to move the storage media from /var/lib/backuppc from
>>>> local
>>>> > machine to some remote Windows machine?
>>>>
>>>> The archive filesystem must support unix-style hardlinks for the pooling
>>>> feature to work.  Theoretically you might be able to install windows
>>>> services-for-unix, export a directory via NFS, and mount that as your
>>>> archive filesystem but I don't think anyone has gotten satisfactory
>>>> performance that way.  For a small setup you might be able to use the
>>>> free VMware server on the windows box with the backuppc server running
>>>> as a guest.  Or, depending on your use for the windows boxes perhaps you
>>>> could run windows under VMware to give Linux the native speed - or
>>>> dual-boot to let backuppc run at night.
>>>>
>>>> Iscsi would be the obvious solution here but I think the software is
>>>> expensive on the windows side.  Buying a pair of SATA disks that you can
>>>> run in raid1 on the linux box is probably the cheapest approach with
>>>> good performance.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>   Les Mikesell
>>>>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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