On Wednesday 13 January 2010 18:17:25 Moray Henderson (ICT) wrote:
> Should I log the main issues in your bug tracker?

Yes, that is a very good idea.  It is the only way to really ensure that the 
issues don't accidentally get lost -- especially since just now is a very 
intense period ...

Regards,

Kern

>
>
> Moray.
> "To err is human.  To purr, feline"
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Kern Sibbald [mailto:[email protected]]
> >Sent: 13 January 2010 16:54
> >To: [email protected]
> >Cc: Moray Henderson (ICT)
> >Subject: Re: [Bacula-devel] Fedora/EL builds of 3.0.3
> >
> >On Wednesday 13 January 2010 16:33:33 Moray Henderson (ICT) wrote:
> >> Will there be a pre-release version of 5.0.0?  I can certainly test a
> >> CentOS 5 build and install.
> >
> >Even though pre-release testing is very useful and often finds
>
> problems,
>
> >in
> >this case I don't think we will release a beta version because a good
> >number
> >of Bacula users have been running nightly regression tests, which we
> >appreciate a lot.  In addition, we are a bit limited on time, and the
>
> new
>
> >version requires a database upgrade, which once made you cannot go back
>
> to
>
> >3.0.x so not many users will be inclined to test in a real production
> >environment.
> >
> >For testing, probably the easiest it to git clone the repository.  In
> >structions are in the Developer's manual and also on the Bacula project
> >pages
> >of Source Forge.  If you have spare cycles, you can also setup nightly
> >regression testing, which is documented in the README.* files of the
> >regress
> >directory.
> >
> >> According to logwatch's CHANGES file, it was version 7 where they
> >> changed to the new /etc/logwatch directory structure.
> >
> >OK, I am not sure what is going on with logwatch.  I guess that is an
> >additional feature that one of the packagers (probably Scott) setup.
> >
> >The log rotation code, which I don't think you are referring to, that I
> >setup
> >a very long time ago is a simple file (not  a script) that goes
> >in /etc/logrotate.d.  So I will have to take a closer look at what is
> >going
> >wrong in the spec file.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Kern
> >
> >> Moray.
> >> "To err is human.  To purr, feline"
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Kern Sibbald [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> >Sent: 13 January 2010 14:51
> >> >To: Philipp Storz
> >> >Cc: [email protected]
> >> >Subject: Re: [Bacula-devel] Fedora/EL builds of 3.0.3
> >> >
> >> >On Wednesday 13 January 2010 15:40:28 Philipp Storz wrote:
> >> >> Hello list,
> >> >>
> >> >> I put Kern's spec files into the opensuse build service, into my
>
> home
>
> >> >> project,
> >> >>
> >> >> where they build successfully on
> >> >>         CentOS_5
> >> >>         Fedora_10       Fedora_11       Fedora_9
> >> >>         RHEL_4          RHEL_5
> >> >>         SLES_9          SLE_10          SLE_11          openSUSE_11.0
> >>
> >> openSUSE_11.1
> >>
> >> >and openSUSE_11.2
> >> >
> >> >Yes, the fact that we have so many different platforms for which the
> >> >packagers
> >> >build complicates considerably the problems.  Hopefully something
>
> like
>
> >> >this
> >> >and a few testers will help us improve the features and quality of
>
> the
>
> >> >packages.
> >> >
> >> >> I would like to improve the packages there.
> >> >>
> >> >> Everybody who wants to help, just has to get his free obs account
>
> on
>
> >> >> https://build.opensuse.org/
> >> >> and then I can add him to the project.
> >> >>
> >> >> One thing that I did is that I reduced the size of the
> >> >> bacula-docs-3.0.3.tar.bz2 from 50 to 30 Megabytes by using
>
> "fdupes",
>
> >> as
> >>
> >> >> there are many duplicate files in the different languages.
> >> >>
> >> >> What we need most in my opinion is testing of the rpms on the
> >>
> >> different
> >>
> >> >> platforms.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for your help Philipp
> >> >
> >> >Best regards,
> >> >
> >> >Kern
> >> >
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Philipp
> >> >>
> >> >> Am Dienstag 12 Januar 2010 16:40:32 schrieb Kern Sibbald:
> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You might want to take a look at the new .spec files that I
>
> created
>
> >> >some
> >> >
> >> >> >  time ago.  I was hoping the packagers would use them for the
>
> 3.0.3
>
> >> >> >  release, but they used the old spec.  I believe my spec files
> >>
> >> correct
> >>
> >> >> > most of these problems -- though the doc is still listed as
>
> tar.gz
>
> >> --
> >>
> >> >> > that is easy enough to fix.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Any feedback on these specs would be welcome, because they are
>
> the
>
> >> >specs
> >> >
> >> >> >  that will be used to generate the next released version (5.0.0)
> >>
> >> which
> >>
> >> >> >  should come around the end of this month.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have attached them here for your convenience.  They are also
>
> in
>
> >> the
> >>
> >> >> >  master branch of the SF git repo.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Best regards,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Kern
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Tuesday 12 January 2010 16:12:59 Moray Henderson wrote:
> >> >> > > Hello Developers,
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > The platforms/redhat/bacula.spec.in file in your 3.0.3 tarball
> >>
> >> has a
> >>
> >> >> > > number of problems when built for EL5 and sqlite:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >  - Source file bacula-docs is now bz2 not gz
> >> >> > >  - Logwatch location wrong for newer distros
> >> >> > >  - Logwatch applybaculadate script not installed
> >> >> > >  - Sqlite database not created with correct permissions
> >> >> > >  - Passwords not set up correctly in conf files
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Your published bacula-3.0.3-1.src.rpm fixes the first two, but
> >>
> >> not
> >>
> >> >the
> >> >
> >> >> > > remainder.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > The attached patch will ensure the correct logwatch locations
>
> for
>
> >> >the
> >> >
> >> >> > > supported Fedora-based distros (I don't know about SuSE or
> >>
> >> Mandrake)
> >>
> >> >as
> >> >
> >> >> > > well as fixing the other issues.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I would also vote for having a placeholder in the Name fields
>
> of
>
> >> the
> >>
> >> >> > > .conf files, rather than the hostname of the build host.  That
> >>
> >> way
> >>
> >> >the
> >> >
> >> >> > > real hostname can be inserted by the %post script in the same
>
> way
>
> >> >that
> >> >
> >> >> > > the passwords are.  I'm building for CentOS 5, and will be
> >> >
> >> >installing
> >> >
> >> >> > > the rpms on several servers, so having all the resources named
> >>
> >> after
> >>
> >> >my
> >> >
> >> >> > > build server isn't very useful default.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > There's a small mistake in
>
> bacula-3.0.3/scripts/logwatch/README:
> >> it
> >>
> >> >> > > tells you to copy scripts/logwatch/bacula to
>
> applybaculaupdate.
>
> >> >> > > I hope you find this useful.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Moray.
> >> >> > > "To err is human.  To purr, feline"
> >
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