BTW, thanks for the responses!
On 6/27/07, Clyde O Goffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OK so I guess the answer is there's no real way to do it all with bacula.
You have to use some outside utility which is kindof a nuisance in terms of
managing your backups. If bacula had this functionality then I can use
bacula can manage it for me and I can look to bacula for a record of
everything copied off to tape. With rync and tar I'd have to create a
separate system for managing those tapes.
The workaround for me is run a separate backup of the same data since I
want bacula to manage everything. This adds more stress to my clients but
if this were implemented I'd only have to worry about stressing my storage
agents because its just a copy of the data from one medium to another.
I've used other enterprise level backup/recovery solutions and they all
seem to have this functionality implemented as having multiple copies of the
same data stored in multiple places is an essential part of any Disaster
Recovery Plan. I would definitely commit resources to the development of
this feature.
-Clyde
On 6/27/07, Brian Debelius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pool Type = <type> This directive defines the pool type, which
> corresponds
> to the type of Job being run. It is required and may be one of
> the following:
> Backup
> *Archive
> *Cloned
> *Migration
> *Copy
> *Save
> *Note, only Backup is current implemented.
>
> I knew I saw it somewhere. But it does say its not implemented.
>
>
> Arno Lehmann wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > 27.06.2007 00:26,, Brian Debelius wrote::
> >
> >> But its in the docs. :)
> >>
> >
> > Where? :-)
> >
> > I guess this is a problem with terminology - What is called "cloning"
> > in the manual, and what you refer to, is probably this (Director
> > configuration, Job resource):
> >
> >> Run = <job-name>
> >> The Run directive (not to be confused with the Run option in a
> Schedule) allows you to start other jobs or to clone jobs.
> >>
> >
> > This does not refer to actual job data cloning, but to the feature
> > that jobs can start other jobs.
> >
> > Not quite what Clyde wants...
> >
> > Arno
> >
> >
> >> Arno Lehmann wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> 26.06.2007 23:21,, Brian Debelius wrote::
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> You want what is called cloning. I'm not sure if it has been fully
>
> >>>> implemented yet. I would like to do that also.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> No, that's not implemented. I would even say that's not even been
> >>> started to be implemented.
> >>>
> >>> Arno
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> brian-
> >>>>
> >>>> Clyde O Goffe wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hey Peter,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure if this is what I want
> though.
> >>>>> If I could migrate the data to Tape but also keep the data on disk
> >>>>> for fast restores then that would be ideal. The Tapes will be
> kept
> >>>>> offsite. I only want to use the Tape for restores in the event
> that
> >>>>> a restore from Disk fails or if I need to rebuilt my site at a
> >>>>> alternate location. It seems your solution is a step in the right
>
> >>>>> direction only I need to keep the data on Disk as well. Do you
> know
> >>>>> if that's possible without having to do a separate backup to Tape
> of
> >>>>> the same data?
> >>>>> -Clyde
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 6/26/07, *Peter Eisch* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Clyde,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In your pool definition include the key (Next Pool) with the
> right
> >>>>> value:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pool {
> >>>>> Name = host
> >>>>> Use Volume Once = yes
> >>>>> Pool Type = Backup
> >>>>> Auto Prune = yes
> >>>>> Volume Retention = 13 days
> >>>>> Label Format = host-
> >>>>> Maximum Volumes = 15
> >>>>> Recycle = yes
> >>>>> Storage = hostFiles
> >>>>> Next Pool = DSI-Tape
> >>>>> }
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pool {
> >>>>> Name = DSI-Tape
> >>>>> Pool Type = Backup
> >>>>> Recycle = yes
> >>>>> AutoPrune = yes
> >>>>> Volume Retention = 31 days # rotate tapes monthly
> >>>>> Storage = TL2000
> >>>>> }
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then create a job to do the migration. Below is an
> example. Take
> >>>>> care to note that I name my pools (separate pool for each
> host)
> >>>>> the same name as the host. Then replace the named
> 'host' with
> >>>>> the client's name. Also note the bacula server is named
> >>>>> '<bacula-server>'. :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Job {
> >>>>> Name = "host-migrate"
> >>>>> Type = Migrate
> >>>>> Level = Full
> >>>>> Client = <bacula-server>-fd
> >>>>> Write Bootstrap = "/u1/bacula/working/host-migrate.bsr"
> >>>>> FileSet = "Host Set"
> >>>>> Schedule = "MigrateCycle"
> >>>>> Messages = Standard
> >>>>> Pool = host
> >>>>> Selection Type = Volume
> >>>>> Selection Pattern = ".*"
> >>>>> Priority = 12
> >>>>> }
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Migrate cycle, at my site, fires off on Thursday nights so
> the
> >>>>> tape can be rotated on Friday. In the Migrate job, you could
> >>>>> change what's written to tape to be a subset of what was
> written
> >>>>> in the disk backup by manipulating the FileSet. The Migrate
> job
> >>>>> draw from the Pool using the bacula-server's FD.
> >>>>> Does this help? Hopefully between the on-line manual and my
> >>>>> example you can find a solution.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NB: once the backup has been migrated, you can no longer use
> the
> >>>>> disk copy of the backup in the event you need to restore. If
> you
> >>>>> restart the sd between migrate jobs (like a system reboot or
> >>>>> add/change to the sd.conf) the next migrate will fail
> appending to
> >>>>> the current tape. It's for these two reasons that I only
> migrate
> >>>>> weekly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> peter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 6/26/07 1:58 PM, "Clyde O Goffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks in advanced!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 6/26/07, *Clyde O Goffe* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello Everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm interested in knowing if there is a feature that
> >>>>> allows you to automatically send a copy of a backup to
>
> >>>>> disk off to tape for offsite storage. I'm trying not
> to
> >>>>> have to run two separate backups of the same server
> but
> >>>>> instead just run one backup and then have it copied
> off to
> >>>>> tape. Also this way I know that the same data that's
> on
> >>>>> disk is also on tape. Any suggestions?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Clyde
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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