I'm willing to talk to Rich about the incident he described, I will no
longer talk to you about it. I've already said all I'm going to say to
you about the subject.
But your responses and your attitude make me wonder what you say to
people when you "defend Islam".

Peace

Gilberto

On 8/29/05, Iskandar Hai, M.D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Who is talking about *world* problems? We are talking about what happened,
> by *Muslim* faculty and principal, at a school in Oregon to Rich's
> daughter, a 6-year old child. She was initimdated and harrassed because of
> her religion. That's not a world problem. It's not a language thing
> either. Why is it so difficult for you to admit that they were wrong? That
> they did her wrong? Why is it so difficult for you to say that those guys
> were wrong? What "complicated" or "nuanced" world problem is involved
> here?
> 
> Ya, I guess that's just how the world is: some Muslims continue to
> persecute, intimidate and harrass Baha'is because of their faith. Heck,
> the Baha'is are apostates and deserve to be killed. And yet, some Muslims
> have the gall and temerity to accuse Baha'is of things that you think they
> might do at some future date; and you fail to condemn the simple act of
> peresecution that goes on, right now, at a school in Oregon. Ya, that's
> just the way the world is. Quite "complicated" and "nuanced".
> 
> See, I condemn the lack of action of the school principal and faculty (at
> Rich's daughter's school) for two (among many) reasons: such things (all
> too often and common, I might add) damage and tarnish the reputation of
> Islam making it very difficult for me and other Baha'is to defend Islam;
> and, second, because it's just plain wrong. It's quite unfortunate that
> you don't get it. But, as you said: "That's just how the world is."
> 
> Iskandar
> 
> 
> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Gilberto Simpson wrote:
> 
> > On 8/29/05, Iskandar Hai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> >
> > I'm asking you to condemn the school faculty and principal of Rich's
> > > daughter. Try to explain to a 6-year ild that her situation was
> > > "complicated" or "nuanced".
> >
> >  Maybe this is a language thing. But I don't think you are really
> > understanding me. I think the world really IS complicated. I seldom see
> > issues in black and white terms. And that's not something I'm going to
> > apologize for. Even issues which might seem obvious for other people. I
> > think that people start off life basically good and well intentioned so that
> > when they act badly there are often reasons for it (not necessarily good
> > reasons, or justifiable reasons, but reasons). That's just how the world is.
> >
> 
> 
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