The Baha'i Studies Listserv Read the Kitab-i-Adqas and the Will and Testament of Abdul-Baha. It is all in completely and clearly in there I assure you. Try the indexes. That is what I did. Best of luck in your research!
Sincerely, Shamim Bina On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Ian Kluge <iankl...@netbistro.com> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Dear Minhaj Khan, > > I would truly be grateful if you could provide some references for your > statement that "Abdul Baha never claimed that the guardianship was meant to > be a permanent institution [and] The Kitab-i-Aqdas makes it clear that > leadership will pass from the Aghsan to the people of Baha." > > Best wishes, > > Ian Kluge > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Minhaj Khan" <mak8...@gmail.com> > To: "Baha'i Studies" <bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:28 AM > Subject: Re: Bahaullah's descendants was Re: Universal House of > Guardianship > > > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > I know a Baha'i scholar here who says he met a grandson of Abdul Baha. > I'm not sure which grandson, but the man made it clear his father > broke the covenant. He broke all ties with his father and stood > steadfast in the cause. Not once did he claim the role of guardianship > or any such leadership role based on his lineage. > > Abdul Baha never claimed that the guardianship was meant to be a > permanent institution. The Kitab-i-Aqdas makes it clear that > leadership will pass from the Aghsan to the people of Baha. The topic > is clear and I see no reason why there should be any further > discussion on it. > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Sen & Sonja <sen.so...@casema.nl> wrote: > >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> On 27 Aug 2010 at 12:03, Gilberto Simpson wrote: >> >> If any of Bahaullah's descendants joined the mainstream Bahais would >>> they be eligible for being Guardian or any other special role? >>> >> >> They could not be the Guardian, since the prospective Guardian had to >> be nominated by his predecessor, and the choice approved by majority >> vote of a body of nine Hands of the Cause. The Guardianship is >> therefore definitively terminated (pending another Manifestation who >> will do as She pleases). >> >> See on my blog: >> http://tinyurl.com/NocounterfeitGuardians >> >> However the descendants of Baha'u'llah might have a position of >> honour. In the Kitab-e `ahd Baha'u'llah writes: >> >> It is incumbent upon everyone to show courtesy to, and have regard >> for the Aghsan, that thereby the Cause of God may be glorified and >> His Word exalted. This injunction hath time and again been mentioned >> and recorded in the Holy Writ. Well is it with him who is enabled to >> achieve that which the Ordainer, the Ancient of Days hath prescribed >> for him. Ye are bidden moreover to respect the members of the Holy >> Household, the Afnan and the kindred. ... >> (Baha'u'llah, Tablets of Baha'u'llah, p. 221) >> >> Sen >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> Sen McGlinn http://senmcglinn.wordpress.com >> >> *** >> In reality, the radiant, pure hearts are the Mashrak-el-Azcar >> and from them the voice of supplication and >> invocation continually reacheth the Supreme Concourse. >> Tablets of `Abdu'l-Baha Abbas, p. 678 >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:mak8...@gmail.com >> Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto: >> leave-523097-22521...@list.jccc.edu >> Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to >> ly...@list.jccc.edu >> Or subscribe: >> http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st >> Baha'i Studies is available through the following: >> Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu >> Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st >> News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st >> Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net >> New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu >> >> > __________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:iankl...@netbistro.com > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto: > leave-523366-243...@list.jccc.edu > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to > ly...@list.jccc.edu > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > > > __________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:shamimb...@gmail.com > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto: > leave-523428-19442...@list.jccc.edu > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to > ly...@list.jccc.edu > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > -- "Dedicate the precious days of your lives to the betterment of the world". ~ Bahá’u’lláh __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-523431-274...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
