the ndic establishes spacing zones (i.e. zone I may be for 640's, zone
II for 1280's,etc.)  in each field area, usually according to what is
asked for in the hearing application . sometimes the commission will
combine applications and try to resolve the spacing for a whole area
in a singal hearing.  usually, the operators can work out how they
want each area spaced, but if a dispute arises, the commission has to
resolve the dispute.

On Sep 30, 12:17 pm, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK I had a hunch about this but did find a reference that was
> consistent with my hunch
>
> The reference 
> ishttp://en.allexperts.com/q/Oil-Gas-3147/2008/8/lay-spacing-units.htm
>
> Apparently if the two sections are one atop the other NS, that is a
> standing up spacing unit, whereas if the two sections are beside each
> other
> EW that is a laying down spacing unit.
>
> It must be kept in mind that these spacing units are tenatively
> approved before the drill bit hits the ground. It may turn out that
> unforseen things happen during drilling--commonly perhaps a lateral
> that cannot be drilled as long as planned. As a consequence, a driller
> might decide on the spot that it would be better to convert a single
> 1280 acre spacing to twin 640 acre spacings. Generally a driller can
> do these things if there is an obvious reason to change the plan...The
> spacing on any well is not truly official until after the official
> post drilling pooling hearing in Bismarck. I think that is the main
> reason for the legal term "other relief as appropriate"...basically
> the driller in the initial approval has the option to change what he
> does w/o having to go back for another hearing assuming that the
> change is reasonable given the new circumstances only apparent after
> drilling commenced. Otherwise the driller would have to immediately
> stop drilling and wait weeks to schedule a new hearing. Think of an
> airplane that puts in a flight plan. A storm builds and the pilot must
> decide in the air on the spot to change the route. He doesnt go back
> to the airport and file a new flight plan, but surely he calls the
> tower to tell them what the amended route will be.
>
> I don't really know anything about the zone thing except to say that
> oil exists at different vertical depths and a dry well at one depth
> may be a productive well at another. Once the driller has the lease he
> is free to check out whatever possibilities might be thought to be
> economically productive. That apparently was part of what was going on
> when EOG was drilling to over 13,000 ft in the Winnepeg formation, but
> it looks to me as if the experiment failed or some production would be
> forthcoming.
> On Sep 30, 12:39 pm, go-devil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > David,
> > Brighams asking for Stand Up Spacing Units in Alger-Bakken Pool. What
> > is a Stand Up?
> > In a different case, same hearing a company is asking for 1280 spacing
> > in Alger Bakken Pool Zone II. It also states:
> > For which spacing has been established on the basis of one horizontal
> > well per 1280 acres and such other relief as is appropriate.
> > Are these the same Fields and different Zones?
> > Is it one well per 1280 unless relief is needed, meaning another well?
> > Thanks
>
> > On Sep 30, 8:25 am, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > I honestly don't see any issue with this. If companies want to do two
> > > mile laterals and believe that such an approach is working, which this
> > > spacing permits, so be it. It looks to me like the plan is to
> > > ultimately drill at least two wells per 1280 acre spacing, so in the
> > > end they have well counts similar to one well per section spacings,
> > > but with the longer laterals. Granted that the royalty payments get
> > > divided up among mineral owners on both sections, and there may be
> > > year long time lag before the second well is drilled, but this should
> > > tend to smooth out royalties over time for every mineral owner.
>
> > > On Sep 30, 10:51 am, go-devil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > David, Larry, Teegue,
> > > > I see in a Hearing reports for Oct. 08 that Brigham is pushing for 22
> > > > various 1280 Spacings,
> > > > I know Hess permitted a 1280 combining Section 32 and 29 of 156/92.
> > > > In Brighams request it asks for 1280 spacing on Section 32 of 156/92
> > > > with Section 5 of 155/92.
> > > > Any ideas as to the outcome here?
>
> > > > On Sep 30, 4:47 am, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Yesterday's 9/28/08 daily activity report was especially interesting
> > > > > because it includes initial production information (ip) for a large
> > > > > number of wells by many different drillers in the state including
> > > > > several EOG wells just off confidential.
> > > > > Linkhttps://www.dmr.nd.gov/oilgas/dailyindex.asp
>
> > > > > Of the wells listed the first place goes to EOG drilled Austin 26 in
> > > > > SE Austin with an official ip of 3070 bopd.
>
> > > > > The silver medallian goes to EOG's School 16 on the south side of
> > > > > Parshall TWP bringing in an official ip of 1721 bopd.
>
> > > > > On the other end we now know for sure that, sadly, Behm's Edwards 1
> > > > > was not a producer.
>
> > > > > We have producing wells coming in as low as 17 and 30 bopd. I wonder
> > > > > how many of the wells coming in at 100 bopd or less will still be in
> > > > > production a year from now..It takes 3-4 bopd I think just to cover
> > > > > the costs of pump operation already in place.
>
> > > > > Can anyone tell me exactly what is going on with 17058 Shell Creek
> > > > > State 1 01 drlled as a second well in 1 152 90 (Parshall TWP up by the
> > > > > primary already producing "Long" well in that section). I know it was
> > > > > scheduled to be a test well of some sort.The report says they drilled
> > > > > to 13,459 ft into the Winnepeg formation, but apparently has not been
> > > > > put into production.
>
> > > > > For those of you with EOG holes drilled awaiting the pooling hearing
> > > > > for your section, a bunch of these are scheduled to take place on
> > > > > October 23rd in Bismarck. Check the Oct 23rd hearing dockets page on
> > > > > the dmr site, as this was just posted yesterday
> > > > > .
> > > > > Figure a minimum of 2-3 months from the hearing date to when a royalty
> > > > > check shows up in your mailbox. :-)
>
> > > > > Those of you with a pooling hearing scheduled October 23rd should
> > > > > receive legal papers within a few days I would think telling you the
> > > > > official hearing has been scheduled and you can show up if in Bismarck
> > > > > you are unhappy with the pooling scheme (not that it would do any
> > > > > good, LOL).You can also listen in on the hearing live via the Web
> > > > > starting at 9 AM on the scheduled hearing day. Most of this is routine
> > > > > and if no owners are present to complain about something, the hearing
> > > > > goes smoothly and very quickly. But occasionally someone wanders in to
> > > > > raise an interesting issue.
> > > > > After the hearing, the last step is for the title owners to do one
> > > > > final check on who owns the mineral interest in each section, to make
> > > > > absolutely certain there are no errors when the checks are cut. The
> > > > > companies take extraordinary steps to assure the accuracy when they
> > > > > get nearly to the check cutting stage, and that is why this seems to
> > > > > take a little longer than it otherwise might. By the time you get your
> > > > > first check,your well will likely have been producing for sale for
> > > > > nearly 6 months.
> > > > > The first check usually includes royalty payments for the first 2-3
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