I forgot add that this "independent" engraving from Wroclaw'a collection is exactly the same portrait than object in Neue Bibliothek der schönen Wissenschaften... I now also that many peoples cut graphics from books and than sold. But for me were interesting objects which had or still have call numbers in libraries as work by Folino as "independent" engraving.
About format, for example engraving with Weiss's portrait from Ossolinski National Institute Department of Prints has dimension: 157 x 94 millimeters. From Stadtbibliothek Breslau's index card I read that this engraving had a little other dimension: "9,7 x 15,4 cm". Probably base for dimension was edge of pressure and edges of wide probably were cut. There is not too impossible that there are two different engravings. GJ Dnia 10-07-2011 o godz. 22:04 Markus Lutz napisał(a): > Dear Bernhard, > no there isn't any further portrait of Weiss, only the picture by Denner > and the engraving of this portrait. > It's true, that Hoffmann writes about three, but the engraving in the > "Neue Bibliothek der schönen Wissenschaften ...", Vol. 1, 1765, is the > engraving by Folin! So he is wrong. > > On the following site you will find a digital copy of the complete volume: > http://scout.ub.uni-potsdam.de/fea/digbib/view?did=c1:209&p=1 > But the quality of the copy, especially of the engraving is very poor. > > Also on http://www.tabulatura.com you will find a better copy of it. > Kenneth Sparr writes there: > "Silvius Leopold Weiss. Copper engraving [1765] by Bartolomeo Folino > [1730-after 1808] , after a painting (c. 1740), now lost, by Balthasar > Denner [1685-1749]. > > This engraving (a copy of which is in the author's collection) was > included in the first volume of Neuen Bibliothek der schönen > Wissenschaften und freyen Künste, Leipzig 1765. The reasons for dating > the original painting to c. 1740 is that it shows Weiss in his "mature" > years and that Denner in 1740 also portrayed Johann Adolf Hasse, who was > the leader of the court orchestra at Dresden. It is hardly likely that > the engraving was made before 1750 as Weiss died that year and Folino > was but 20 years old. Folino was born in Venice and died in Warsaw." > > Best regards > Markus > > > Am 10.07.2011 18:06, schrieb Bernhard Hofstoetter: > > Dear lute netters, > > > > Carl J. A. Hoffmann's "The musicians/composers of Silesia" ("Die > Tonkünstler > > Schlesiens"), published in Breslau in 1830, contains an entry on Weiss, > both > > Silvius and Siegmund. > > > > > > The last two sentences in the article on S.L. Weiss, in my translation, > read as > > follows: > > > > > > "His picture is in the library of fine arts. There is also another one, in > > octavo format, which has been drawn by Denner and engraved by Folin." > (German > > original: "Sein Bildniß befindet sich in der Bibliothek der schönen > > Wissenschaften. Auch giebt es noch ein anderes in Oktav, gezeichnet von > Denner, > > gestochen von Folin.") > > > > It seems to me that the second sentence refers to the well-known > engraving by > > Folin which is based on the lost painting/drawing by Denner. > > > > > > The first sentence, however, apparently refers to another portrait by a > painter > > whose name is not given. > > > > Is Hoffmann the only source suggesting that such other portrait ever > existed? > > Can anyone shed light on this matter? > > > > Bernhard > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > -- > > Markus Lutz > Schulstraße 11 > > 88422 Bad Buchau > > Tel 0 75 82 / 92 62 89 > Fax 0 75 82 / 92 62 90 > Mail mar...@gmlutz.de
