Arto,
--- On Sat, 1/7/12, wikla <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> wrote:
> These, after being plucked, most of the time hurt
> our ears with
> the ordinary fretting - now too low, now too high -
> according to whether
> they have been stretched on the lute many or few days."
>
Yes. This last sentence makes it clear that Galilei is not speaking
specifically about temperament per se, but rather about correcting notes played
on strings that have gone out of tune in general. Obviously one should try to
do this in the extremely rare instance that a lute string has gone out of tune
;-).
Chris
Christopher Wilke, D.M.A.
Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
www.christopherwilke.com
>
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 14:41:09 -0800 (PST), Christopher Wilke
> <chriswi...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > --- On Fri, 1/6/12, wikla <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Are there really any serious lutenists, who just
> "push the buttons",
> just
> >> set the finger on the string without "colouring"
> the pitch by the finger
> >> pressure up or down?
> >
> > I find just "pushing the buttons" to be pretty hard in
> itself.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
> > Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
> > www.christopherwilke.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Arto
> >
> > On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 22:45:37 +0100, "Jean-Marie
> Poirier"
> > <jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>
> wrote:
> >> David, I made amends for that mistake of mine !
> ;-(
> >>
> >> There is another quotation from Mersenne I like
> very much :
> >>
> >> "According to the common saying of musicians, the
> lute is the charlatan
> > of
> >> music, because it passes off as good that whichis
> bad on good
> >> instruments..." (Translated by Mark Lindley ,
> Lutes, Viols and
> >> Temperaments, Cambridge University Press, 1984)
> >>
> >> I like the isea of playing a "charlatan of music"
> :-). Don't you ?
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Jean-Marie
> >>
> >> =================================
> >>
> >> == En réponse au message du 06-01-2012, 22:39:12
> ==
> >>
> >>>2012/1/6 Jean-Marie Poirier <jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>:
> >>>
> >>>> I think his {Denis'] "ivory frets",
> which could be adjusted
> according
> >>>> to the required temperament, are only
> another experimental endeavour
> >>>> comparable with Galilei's suggested use of
> "tastini"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On the contrary, Galilei does not suggest the
> use of tastini, instead
> >>>he mentions them as "... tastini, which lately
> some people seek to
> >>>introduce in order to remove some of their
> sharpness from the thirds
> >>>and major tenths (as they try to persuade those
> who are more foolish
> >>>than they)."(Fronimo 1584, translation Carol
> MacClintock 1985).
> >>>
> >>>So Galilei was not in favour of tastini at all,
> but there were lute
> >>>players in his time who were. Nothing new, in
> other words. ;-)
> >>>
> >>>David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>*******************************
> >>>David van Ooijen
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> >>>www.davidvanooijen.nl
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