So it seems to be easy to affect to the pitch by the finger pressure, testimoned by our great Vincenco G. himself: "Do not believe that such _tastatura_ is difficult to make or to be put to use, but consider it to be easy,"
Here I strongly agree with VG! ;-) Arto On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 08:05:53 -0800 (PST), Christopher Wilke <chriswi...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Arto, > > --- On Sat, 1/7/12, wikla <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> wrote: > >> These, after being plucked, most of the time hurt >> our ears with >> the ordinary fretting - now too low, now too high - >> according to whether >> they have been stretched on the lute many or few days." >> > > Yes. This last sentence makes it clear that Galilei is not speaking > specifically about temperament per se, but rather about correcting notes > played on strings that have gone out of tune in general. Obviously one > should try to do this in the extremely rare instance that a lute string has > gone out of tune ;-). > > Chris > > Christopher Wilke, D.M.A. > Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer > www.christopherwilke.com > > >> >> On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 14:41:09 -0800 (PST), Christopher Wilke >> <chriswi...@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> > --- On Fri, 1/6/12, wikla <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Are there really any serious lutenists, who just >> "push the buttons", >> just >> >> set the finger on the string without "colouring" >> the pitch by the finger >> >> pressure up or down? >> > >> > I find just "pushing the buttons" to be pretty hard in >> itself. >> > >> > Chris >> > >> > Christopher Wilke D.M.A. >> > Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer >> > www.christopherwilke.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Arto >> > >> > On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 22:45:37 +0100, "Jean-Marie >> Poirier" >> > <jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> >> wrote: >> >> David, I made amends for that mistake of mine ! >> ;-( >> >> >> >> There is another quotation from Mersenne I like >> very much : >> >> >> >> "According to the common saying of musicians, the >> lute is the charlatan >> > of >> >> music, because it passes off as good that whichis >> bad on good >> >> instruments..." (Translated by Mark Lindley , >> Lutes, Viols and >> >> Temperaments, Cambridge University Press, 1984) >> >> >> >> I like the isea of playing a "charlatan of music" >> :-). Don't you ? >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> Jean-Marie >> >> >> >> ================================= >> >> >> >> == En réponse au message du 06-01-2012, 22:39:12 >> == >> >> >> >>>2012/1/6 Jean-Marie Poirier <jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>: >> >>> >> >>>> I think his {Denis'] "ivory frets", >> which could be adjusted >> according >> >>>> to the required temperament, are only >> another experimental endeavour >> >>>> comparable with Galilei's suggested use of >> "tastini" >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>On the contrary, Galilei does not suggest the >> use of tastini, instead >> >>>he mentions them as "... tastini, which lately >> some people seek to >> >>>introduce in order to remove some of their >> sharpness from the thirds >> >>>and major tenths (as they try to persuade those >> who are more foolish >> >>>than they)."(Fronimo 1584, translation Carol >> MacClintock 1985). >> >>> >> >>>So Galilei was not in favour of tastini at all, >> but there were lute >> >>>players in his time who were. Nothing new, in >> other words. ;-) >> >>> >> >>>David >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>-- >> >>>******************************* >> >>>David van Ooijen >> >>>davidvanooi...@gmail.com >> >>>www.davidvanooijen.nl >> >>>******************************* >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>To get on or off this list see list information >> at >> >>>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> >> >> ======================================== >> >> >> > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html