So it seems to be easy to affect to the pitch by the finger pressure,
testimoned by our great Vincenco G. himself: "Do not believe that such
_tastatura_ is difficult to make or to be put to use, but consider it to be
easy,"

Here I strongly agree with VG! ;-)

Arto

On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 08:05:53 -0800 (PST), Christopher Wilke
<chriswi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Arto,
> 
> --- On Sat, 1/7/12, wikla <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> wrote:
> 
>> These, after being plucked, most of the time hurt
>> our ears with
>> the ordinary fretting - now too low, now too high -
>> according to whether
>> they have been stretched on the lute many or few days."
>> 
> 
> Yes.  This last sentence makes it clear that Galilei is not speaking
> specifically about temperament per se, but rather about correcting notes
> played on strings that have gone out of tune in general.  Obviously one
> should try to do this in the extremely rare instance that a lute string
has
> gone out of tune ;-).
> 
> Chris
> 
> Christopher Wilke, D.M.A.
> Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
> www.christopherwilke.com
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 14:41:09 -0800 (PST), Christopher Wilke
>> <chriswi...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> > --- On Fri, 1/6/12, wikla <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Are there really any serious lutenists, who just
>> "push the buttons",
>> just
>> >> set the finger on the string without "colouring"
>> the pitch by the finger
>> >> pressure up or down?
>> > 
>> > I find just "pushing the buttons" to be pretty hard in
>> itself.
>> > 
>> > Chris
>> > 
>> > Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
>> > Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
>> > www.christopherwilke.com
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Arto
>> > 
>> > On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 22:45:37 +0100, "Jean-Marie
>> Poirier"
>> > <jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>
>> wrote:
>> >> David, I made amends for that mistake of mine !
>> ;-(
>> >> 
>> >> There is another quotation from Mersenne I like
>> very much :
>> >> 
>> >> "According to the common saying of musicians, the
>> lute is the charlatan
>> > of
>> >> music, because it passes off as good that whichis
>> bad on good
>> >> instruments..." (Translated by Mark Lindley ,
>> Lutes, Viols and
>> >> Temperaments, Cambridge University Press, 1984)
>> >> 
>> >> I like the isea of playing a "charlatan of music"
>> :-). Don't you ?
>> >> 
>> >> Best,
>> >> 
>> >> Jean-Marie
>> >> 
>> >> =================================
>> >>   
>> >> == En réponse au message du 06-01-2012, 22:39:12
>> ==
>> >> 
>> >>>2012/1/6 Jean-Marie Poirier <jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I think his {Denis']  "ivory frets",
>> which could be adjusted
>> according
>> >>>> to the required temperament, are only
>> another experimental endeavour
>> >>>> comparable with Galilei's suggested use of
>> "tastini"
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>On the contrary, Galilei does not suggest the
>> use of tastini, instead
>> >>>he mentions them as "... tastini, which lately
>> some people seek to
>> >>>introduce in order to remove some of their
>> sharpness from the thirds
>> >>>and major tenths (as they try to persuade those
>> who are more foolish
>> >>>than they)."(Fronimo 1584, translation Carol
>> MacClintock 1985).
>> >>>
>> >>>So Galilei was not in favour of tastini at all,
>> but there were lute
>> >>>players in his time who were. Nothing new, in
>> other words. ;-)
>> >>>
>> >>>David
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>-- 
>> >>>*******************************
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>> >>>davidvanooi...@gmail.com
>> >>>www.davidvanooijen.nl
>> >>>*******************************
>> >>>
>> >>>
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