Hi, On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Jason Ede <[email protected]> wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:baruwa- >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mikael Syska >> Sent: 16 November 2011 01:45 >> To: Baruwa users list >> Subject: [Baruwa] Bayes, MS Exchange & dumb users. >> >> Hi, >> >> I guess everybody knows it ... users hate spam. We get blaimed for it. >> Bayes could correct for some of the spam they get but they dont know how >> to use the webinterface or are too lazy to do it. >> >> It has been posted before on the MailScanner and probably also the >> spamassin list. >> >> Since exchange mangles with the mail when using forward the mail can't >> directly being used to train the bayes. With spam as well as ham. >> >> I'm a situration where I'm allowed to store all mail going though the mail >> gateway. So I'm thinking about the following: >> >> * Users can attach mail and send then to a address like: >> [email protected] and [email protected] >> * A deamon looks for mail there. mbox, Maildir, IMAP, POP3 what ever. >> * Looks for attachments and tried to find the MailScanner-ID: >> 5B3A0192865.AB19B which can then be looked up in the database. >> * Sends a rabbitmq message with the needed information. >> >> So what are the pros and cons here. >> Pros >> * I dont have to manually train the bayes any more >> * I actually think users can figure out how to forward messages as >> attachments to a email addres. >> * Less spam, since bayes is now bayes on more feedback from users. >> >> Cons >> * They might forward to a wrong address, ham to spam and vice versa, but >> they should just forward again to "forget" >> >> The biggest problem here is that I'm no expert in Python, but that can >> ofcause be learned for this little task or there could actually be used any >> languages since they only thing I need to interact with is rabbitmq. >> >> Andrew ... I think you are the best person to answer if this is doable or I >> have >> missed something here ? >> >> Ofcause, if I create it, it will be made available as a crontrib to Baruwa >> or as a >> standalone package on github/bitbucket. >> > > I was thinking about addressing this in a different way...
Nice ... > > I think it'd be possible to add something to the ribbon or to the menus > something as mark as spam/not-spam and then it just sends the message > ID,spam/ham and an authentication token to Baruwa or a daemon running on the > mail gateway... I like this idea ... especially since I'm a .NET dev :-) Thats way easiar then learning a new language. Now I just need a smart way to communicate with etiher rabbitmq or the web interface. Which ever is the smartest. > > In an exchange environment the authentication details could be pushed using > group policy or the user could just put in their own account details... I > figure it could work in a similar manner to the release from the quarantine > email? Push auth using group policy? Do you mean like pushing the authentication for a global "report ham/spam user" that are only setup in baruwa? We dont use quarantine mail ... but I will have to look into that. This seems to be the "smarter" way of doing it. > > Jason > > >> mvh >> Mikael Syska >> http://ifyoudo.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056 > _______________________________________________ > Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056 > _______________________________________________ Keep Baruwa FREE - http://pledgie.com/campaigns/12056
