Check out the giant struggle happening right now at 924 Gilman Street for some 
insight on how PC attitudes can run amok.

As for BASFA, I would respectfully suggest that making blanket statements  
about who is or isn't a victim is a fine example of exclusionary attitudes -- 
while a careful, considered consensus process to identify safety and harassment 
issues is, in fact, as inclusive and thus as fannish as you can get.




> On May 24, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Adrienne Foster via Basfa 
> <basfa@lists.basfa.org> wrote:
> 
> John David Galt,
> 
> You obviously have no idea what prompted this discussion and I am not going 
> to use this forum to enlighten you. 
> 
> Adrienne Foster
> 
> 
> 
> From: John David Galt via Basfa <basfa@lists.basfa.org>
> To: basfa@lists.basfa.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 5:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Basfa] Code of Conduct Committee
> 
> On 05/24/2016 03:59 PM, Chuck Serface via Basfa wrote:
> > Hello All:
> > 
> > Many of you know or might have heard that during our last BASFA meeting
> > we held a committee of the whole and formed a Code of Conduct Committee
> > to explore whether or not BASFA needs a formal code of conduct in
> > relation to member safety, sexual harassment, and any harassment in
> > general.  This is an extremely complex and sensitive issue, so as the
> > chair I've formed a committee of women and men I feel will bring a
> > variety of expertise and outlooks to the discussion.  I also want to
> > hear from you, the individual members of BASFA.  What are your concerns,
> > opinions, ideas, what should go into this code of conduct if we have
> > one, and how should we employ it?  Please send your input directly to me
> > at *ceserf...@yahoo.com*.  I'll sort through all your messages and make
> > sure that  you're heard when the committee meets.
> 
> "Code of Conduct" these days simply means banning anyone who dares to
> say things that aren't politically correct.  To even consider adopting
> one is un-fannish and harks back to the exclusionist practices that
> should have been buried forever after the lesson of the first Worldcon.
> 
> (The anti-Puppy movement in Worldcon fandom is the same thing applied to
> the Hugo awards, and it's equally shameful that it would happen in fandom.)
> 
> Identity politics is racism and sexism.  Inclusiveness equals expecting
> all rules to be color- and gender-blind and stay that way.  No group is
> entitled to "affirmative action".  SJWs are professional victims and
> deserve no special treatment.
> 
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