Hi Errol, Adam and all other writers in this thread,
thank you for pointing out some of the really annoying 'new features'
in version 9.
I am using BBedit as long as you do - and now it sucks. This isn't the
first time an update made a good product less useable, putting in
fancy features that cut down productivity instead of increasing it and
gracefully ignoring any previously submitted bug reports or feature
requests that were sent to them.
Some examples I have not read above:
• auto-completion isn't that helpful when trying to write text in
english using a german keyboard. You only get the current system
language.
• why are (some of) the php functions suddenly coloured in green? The
language module knows them, is it that complicated to paint words that
come from the language in blue (like before) and paint words that were
found in other sources as green? IMHO it's more important to color the
keyword (function, constant...) in the color that has been chosen for
that language - and not in the color for this auto-complete-feature.
turning off auto-completion doesn't help.
• is it so difficult to check the php module to allow a php5 class
definition using more than one interface without breaking the function
hierarchy? since two years this is reported as bug, confirmed from
bbedit and --- nada. ignored.
example: class foo extends bar implements if_foo, if_bar {}
• am I the only one who wants to turn off many of the languages in the
language popup? I don't need to see the impressive list of language
modules they have built in - choosing among the few that I use every
day would be enough, faster, useful.
• I'm certainly not the only one who wants to have an option like
"File Path" to the filtering options of the Multi-File-Search options.
Sometimes I have to find strings like 'require_once' in all my php
files of a website. But I want to skip the whole 'libraries' - folder
(where lots of foreign classes are stored in files and subfolders).
> I completely and totally 100% agree with you. I love BBEdit's new
> features. But, one thing that has made products like BBEdit,
I don't love the (most of) new features. Today I'm gonna switch back
to 8.7.2.
The only feature that was nice was editing in the browser window.
> Photoshop, etc., useful to so many people for so many years has been
> the fact that while they do increase and improve their feature set,
> they never forget their legacy users, who are now experts in “that
> program”—and who are usually not willing to learn new keystrokes and
> new ways of doing the same old thing.
> As a UI dude, I believe that the UI should never, ever change its
> functionality in a way that breaks the old method of operating, where
> possible.
I agree 100%.
> So, while I do think that BBEdit 9 is a vast improvement, I'm hedging
> my bets a bit. Yes, it has lost a bit of its identity to other
> programs, but it is still (to me) vastly superior.
>
> I don't like the fact that the Find dialog, the thing I probably use
> more than any other feature, consistently, now has absolutely no
> similar keystrokes, and my productivity has dropped by about 20-45%
> because of the delays in clicking and moving my mouse around when my
> hands never had to leave the keyboard before.
That new find dialogue was the first new feature I've switched off.
> I like BBEdit, and will buy this new version. But I really do want to
> see my keystrokes back, and I really want some of my favorite addons
> to become available again (like automatic PHP function lookup, not
> autocomplete!).
I bought it - I'll update it - I'll try it - and I'll keep hoping that
some day not too far from now BBedit 9 will be as good and useful as
it was in the previous versions. Then it may wear the "It still
doesn't suck" badge again and I'll use it for production.
Harald (grumpy ol' man candidate)
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