>Gandhi and the Dalai Lama come to mind, two examples of human beings who > >seem to be wise, joyful, positive and patient in the face of extreme > >political and social adversity.
Let me risk being not being pc for a moment and ask, because I am apparently ignorant, what the Dalai Llama - - this man who will only eat meat if some else slaughters it for him = - has achieved for other Tibetans. -Allan
