Subject: Re: Preps 500 and 501 Effects as they relate to Sequential Spraying


> Lloyd
> Thank you for this wonderful picture of your experience.
> How do you place your preps in your broadcaster?
> You mention you use 500-508 plus the clays. How do you place these? and
how
> often do you move them around?
> Glen A

Hello Glen
                I follow Hugh Lovel's lead as far as what goes in what well
            I guess you mean actual arrangement of the preps in the wells ?
My broadcasters are built with 45 degree junctions for the wells - I
potentise into liquid - alcohol and water - and the angled wells prevents
problems with leakages
 I had to think about this for a bit - I dont really have a strict system
but then I do kind of .
 The 500 and 501 always go in first so they lay on the bottom centre of the
well jar (bottom and top wells of course)
 Always put the horn clay next to the primary preps (on the right)
 I usually have a vial of fresh rain water in and it will be on the left
the remainder go around to the right in number order - gravity being what it
is we end up with a circular cluster thats a rough circle anti clockwise.
This probably does not matter at all, if we go with the wave theory or
frequencies  (however you like to put it) then each different prep will have
its own specific frequency (s) which should be picked up and transmitted
equally, regardless of  where it is inside. Still I'd rather stick to a
pattern, I think if we develop these little rituals it adds to the effect,
just through reinforcing intent if nothing else.
My map with written intent goes in before the reagents and lays around
against the glass in a circle.
I make sure that nothing ever is flat in the bottom of the jars.
We all have different ideas - when I treat with peppers for weeds or other
problems - its usually a short sharp blast - I take the normal preps out and
just put the pepper in for say 36 hours ( I dowse for this) and will
probably have four or five different potencies in. Why ? I guess I'm trying
to get at the different layers of the problem. A MM potency is operating in
a different way to D ? Some would see this as a shotgun approach - sometimes
a shotgun is easier to hit with.
Sorry that this is disjointed, I have been on the tractor this evening and
rushed it a bit.
cheers
Lloyd Charles

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lloyd Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Preps 500 and 501 Effects as they relate to Sequential
Spraying
>
>
> >
> > Subject: Re: Preps 500 and 501 Effects as they relate to Sequential
> Spraying
> > Dear Merla
> >                     I am unable to explain any of this but can offer a
few
> > comments/observations
> > * the BD farmers in Australia who have encountered problems after a
period
> > of what looked like successful practice are mostly from the Alex
> Podolinsky
> > group and have been mostly not using 501 or very little of it and
> certainly
> > not in concert with 500 - and for sure no horn clay. I'm not challenging
> > AP's knowledge but the message has not been filtering through to the
other
> > end of the pipeline.
> > * these farms have suffered flat battery syndrome somewhere between 7
and
> 15
> > years.
> > * The new organisation of Biodynamic agriculture that I belong to
(Cheryl
> > Kemp writes here sometimes) is promoting the spraying of 500 and 501 in
> back
> > to back applications - 500 at evening and then 501 next morning over the
> > same area, farmers that have done this so far are talking very nice
> results
> > and more important have experienced none of the supposed ill effects
from
> > using 501 in what is a very warm and high light environment, they have
NOT
> > burned up their hay crop or had premature fruiting or all of the other
> > things that worries people about using 501.
> > * when we started using our broadcaster (three seasons ago ) I didnt hav
e
> > access to horn clay for some months and yes we got results (visible) but
> it
> > was as if things were haphazard - the whole place went into rampant
> > flowering in late spring / early summer - perennial weeds, the native
> > plants, our home garden , everything just blazed into bloom. The look of
> it
> > was as if we were shunting things one way then the other.
> > * After about four months I got Rae cards that included the horn clays
and
> > made up a new set of reagents and I have always used horn clay since
that
> > time. In the broadcasters I use the full suite of preps 500 through to
508
> > plus horn clays.
> > * I guess the best description I have is if you came to a furiously
> boiling
> > pot and turned it down to a gentle simmer, we dont see as much happening
> > (things are much more subtle), but I also think its much more stable and
> > balanced.
> > * its human nature that we look for a quick result, or a dramatic
change,
> > but I do think that a slow gentle shifting of the balance point is a lot
> > more beneficial in the long run.
> > Just a few thoughts from down under
> > Cheers
> > Lloyd Charles
> >
> >
> >
> > > I just read Hugh Lovell's words on "Prep 500 and 501 effects".  It was
> > > way over my head since I can only understand what is going on with the
> > > plants on a intuitive basis.
> > >
> > > I want to do a sequential spraying on 3 1/2 acres of our land, the
part
> > > that is not wooded, but fenced and in agricultural usage.  I feel O.K.
> > > about BC, 500, 508, but really question the use of 501.
> > > It's really
> > > confusing to read Hugh's references to horn clay because Hugh Courtney
> > > doesn't include it in the sequence.
> > Internal politics maybe?
> > > Should I order some horn clay?  If
> > > I do, when do I spray it?  We have glacial till soil with wind blown
> > > laos from Washington grain fields.
> > >
> > > Hugh C. suggested that I do it in leaf to stimulate
> > > water influences and I'm thinking about June 20-21.  I don't do the
> > > whole 25 acres because it would be hard to spray in the trees and
> > > underbrush.  Should I be doing that too?
> > >
> > > What am I doing when I do a sequential spray sequence?  Can someone
> > > explain it to me the way Hugh Lovell is explaining in his post on 500
> > > and 501, but in not quite so difficult a conceptual framework?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Merla
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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